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Might as well CH retire from badminton. he just waste his time!
Spot on! What's his purpose of playing on and disgracing himself, CHN and worst of all, badminton.Stop the nonsense, CH. You're insulting even your fans.Go back to your province and be the sports director there.
 
eg. PSH prevented another fixed match between LD vs BCL cos he got rid of LD in the early round.

Should be Park caused the different fixed match because he beat Lin Dan :D Is part of the Chinese strategy going on for years, why so surprise now? Even our idol Zhou Jianhua intentionally lost to compatriot in All England 1992 so Liu Jun can qualify for Olympic. Is up to Park and Chen Wei now and look at the bright side, match fixing is better to happen in QF then SF.
 
That's suck!

I was hoping PG or CH to grab the titles. It is a shame that he gives/ordered a WO to BCL. The Chinese players has the ability to win the title fair and square, this is true a disappointment for their fans.

Now I am root to PSH!!!! Let's bring the surprise of the year!!!
 
Dear members,

If it is true match fixing, it should not be tolerate as it will set other countries to follow suit the same actions. At the end, badminton will be a match fixing sport like football. Next time, the players can sell game to other players or other countries as they knew that no action is taken against them. It is bad for badminton as it is most popular sport in the region and hope that the name won't be tarnish just because of this bad incident of walkover without any valid reason.

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footballs somewhat different. match fixing in that occurs between two different teams, not the same as between the same country.

if chen hong is an independent, then he doesn't need to listen to Li Yongbo. anyone actually consider him being injured, and unwilling to aggravate his injury? after all, i recall Lee Chong Wei losing to Sony because of a "knee injury" then a few days later, is perfectly fine in the French Open. because a lot of injuries you can't actually see or gauge its severity. so don't jump to conclusions.
 
Ohhhh man...... you have great imaginations and should write a Badminton movie script!!!.... :D

no no no. All of you are misunderstanding the situation.

Chen Hong injured himself!

But you see, he will be able to play in HK open. Why? because all the chinese players have super fast recovery rates. They practise an ancient art of kung fu that enables them to heal themselves. What they do is they consult their witch doctors, and then the witch doctors will meditate for 24 hours straight. After that, they will go up to the mountains to collect herbs to heal themselves. And then they are healed. See, thats how they can heal an injury that would otherwise take several months to heal in 2 days!
 
How do u know? Is it just your own imagination?

I don't think money is the issue, is more like the "fear" if order is not obeyed. Poor Chen Hong, quitting national team and now losing fan who've been whole heartedly supporting him :crying:
 
^^ can anyone tell me what would happen to chen hong if "order is not obeyed"? I don't think he has much to lose anyway....
 
I don't think money is the issue, is more like the "fear" if order is not obeyed. Poor Chen Hong, quitting national team and now losing fan who've been whole heartedly supporting him :crying:
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i believe chen hong is in a limbo. Offfically he is off the national team but yet can't represent another country (ex. 2 yr minimum for Taiwan). So when he enter tournaments, he still has to represent china. However, china national squad own the rights to represent china, therefore, when chen hong play, the china national team (ie LYB) has the power to yank chen hong privilage to play for 'china' anytime 'LYB' feels like it. Technically, LYB doesnt need to tell CH not to play. LYB only need to tell the china open organizer that, chen hong isnt on china team so chen hong has to forfeit whenever LYB bring up this technicality breach in any BWF sanctioned tournaments.

This isn't a match fixing scenario, technically. LYB broke no rules or law but rather chen hong is or was playing on borrowed nationality. Chen Hong didnt forsee these consequences when quitting the team. He is a man in limbo. Chen hong can't have it both way like tony G. Tony is wanted by INA and US, it's different. Chen hong played other tournaments before because LYB didn't play his trump card. LYB has a CH voodoo doll. He can poke it anytime he feels like it:p

that's my take on this situation
 
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aiya, all of you have misunderstood.

I repeat again, Chen Hong was really injured. Li Yongbo ask him to walkover because he was concerned that Chen Hong would injure himself more. Because if CH give walkover, means he can spend more time practising the ancient art of healing. He summore have to go up to the mountains and collect herbs. Then he can heal himself in 2 days and be totally fresh for HK open.

I think thats the lies that LYB and some China fans expect us to believe.

Speedy recovery for CH.....and ready for HKO.....and when have to meet with CHN players...in that tounament......he will automatically got injured again...
CH only got injured when he have to face his fellow Chn players.....in QF or SF...:D:D:D
 
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i believe chen hong is in a limbo. Offfically he is off the national team but yet can't represent another country (ex. 2 yr minimum for Taiwan). So when he enter tournaments, he still has to represent china. However, china national squad own the rights to represent china, therefore, when chen hong play, the china national team (ie LYB) has the power to yank chen hong privilage to play for 'china' anytime 'LYB' feels like it. Technically, LYB doesnt need to tell CH not to play. LYB only need to tell the china open organizer that, chen hong isnt on china team so chen hong has to forfeit whenever LYB bring up this technicality breach in any BWF sanctioned tournaments.

This isn't a match fixing scenario, technically. LYB broke no rules or law but rather chen hong is or was playing on borrowed nationality. Chen Hong didnt forsee these consequences when quitting the team. He is a man in limbo. Chen hong played other tournaments before because LYB didn't play his trump card. LYB has a CH voodoo doll. He can poke it anytime he feels like it:p

that's my take on this situation

that is a fairly accurate analysis cooler. add onto that Chen Hong's is now on his own payroll and his payroll comes partly from the winnings. so he does need to enter to get income but at the same time, his income is limited to when he faces a valuable Chinese opponent.

limbo indeed.
 
footballs somewhat different. match fixing in that occurs between two different teams, not the same as between the same country.

if chen hong is an independent, then he doesn't need to listen to Li Yongbo. anyone actually consider him being injured, and unwilling to aggravate his injury? after all, i recall Lee Chong Wei losing to Sony because of a "knee injury" then a few days later, is perfectly fine in the French Open. because a lot of injuries you can't actually see or gauge its severity. so don't jump to conclusions.

oh my oh my.... how gullible can you be?

So Chen Hong gets injured every time he meets a Chinese player right? Three walkovers in a year... all injury huh? Then he will recover just in time for the next tournament, the Hong Kong Open. Must be the herbs. Those herbs are just miraculous!

The case with Sony and LCW is different. Sony and LCW actually PLAYED. Chen Hong walkovered.

How do you explain the other walkover then? Injured too? I supposed Zhao Tingting will recover just in time for her WD match today. Oh those herbs. Or is it the practising of the ancient art of healing?

Chen Hong is representing China, and if LYB dosen't enter his name in tournaments, he can't represent. LYB therefore, i think, uses this to blackmail CH
 
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i believe chen hong is in a limbo. Offfically he is off the national team but yet can't represent another country (ex. 2 yr minimum for Taiwan). So when he enter tournaments, he still has to represent china. However, china national squad own the rights to represent china, therefore, when chen hong play, the china national team (ie LYB) has the power to yank chen hong privilage to play for 'china' anytime 'LYB' feels like it. Technically, LYB doesnt need to tell CH not to play. LYB only need to tell the china open organizer that, chen hong isnt on china team so chen hong has to forfeit whenever LYB bring up this technicality breach in any BWF sanctioned tournaments.

This isn't a match fixing scenario, technically. LYB broke no rules or law but rather chen hong is or was playing on borrowed nationality. Chen Hong didnt forsee these consequences when quitting the team. He is a man in limbo. Chen hong can't have it both way like tony G. Tony is wanted by INA and US, it's different. Chen hong played other tournaments before because LYB didn't play his trump card. LYB has a CH voodoo doll. He can poke it anytime he feels like it:p

that's my take on this situation

In addition to that..CH already knew his consequenses but instead of waiting for another 2 yrs before representing other countries....he decided to play otherwise he will be too old to play again....I think after Olympic, he may quit and do some coaching and occasionally play for Denmark or Superliga league....hope for the best for CH......
 
In addition to that..CH already knew his consequenses but instead of waiting for another 2 yrs before representing other countries....he decided to play otherwise he will be too old to play again....I think after Olympic, he may quit and do some coaching and occasionally play for Denmark or Superliga league....hope for the best for CH......
i know that.
CH should break clean from china squad, move to TW and live with her wife so the 2 year clock start clicking. This is what zhou mi, wang chen, pi hong have done. Yes, in 2 years CH's potency will be reduced but at least he can play in any tournaments he wish. Right now, OG, WC and china tournaments are basically off limit to him, plus a 600 lb LYB on his back.
 
Excellent analysis, cooler!

May I also add that I believe that the extent of this walkover thing within CHN team is above and beyond even LYB. This has surely been put in place as a covert national policy, and even Chief Coaches don't have too much say on policy. And if we really look closely, the problem is not just limited to badminton, and happened long before LYB became chief coach.

This is pretty much similar to how the Malaysian government determines "policies" for Malaysian car manufacturers. The CEOs of these businesses do not have a totally free hand to determine what products they should sell, or whether they should merge with bigger concerns to take advantage of economics of scale, for example. Recently Proton's merger/JV talks with VW and GM were suddenly called off.
 
busy at work, can't write long post.
i believe chen hong is in a limbo. Offfically he is off the national team but yet can't represent another country (ex. 2 yr minimum for Taiwan). So when he enter tournaments, he still has to represent china. However, china national squad own the rights to represent china, therefore, when chen hong play, the china national team (ie LYB) has the power to yank chen hong privilage to play for 'china' anytime 'LYB' feels like it. Technically, LYB doesnt need to tell CH not to play. LYB only need to tell the china open organizer that, chen hong isnt on china team so chen hong has to forfeit whenever LYB bring up this technicality breach in any BWF sanctioned tournaments.

This isn't a match fixing scenario, technically. LYB broke no rules or law but rather chen hong is or was playing on borrowed nationality. Chen Hong didnt forsee these consequences when quitting the team. He is a man in limbo. Chen hong can't have it both way like tony G. Tony is wanted by INA and US, it's different. Chen hong played other tournaments before because LYB didn't play his trump card. LYB has a CH voodoo doll. He can poke it anytime he feels like it:p

that's my take on this situation

so why didn't LYB ask Chen Hong to lose to Chen Yu? i guess it could be that Chen Hong needed more ranking points, but not at the expense of Bao Chunlai making the semis...
 
so why didn't LYB ask Chen Hong to lose to Chen Yu? i guess it could be that Chen Hong needed more ranking points, but not at the expense of Bao Chunlai making the semis...

perhaps he thought that Chen Hong could easily be beaten.... but it proved not to be the case, so after the exit of Lin Dan, LYB got cautious.
 
Sad for badminton.

There is already enough politics everywhere... :eek: and now Badminton too!
Really sad to see such obvious incidents happening in China Open. :crying:
If I have paid for tickets to watch them at the stadium, I would be very very mad :mad::mad::mad:
I wonder what will the beneficial players' thoughts be if they win their next match and eventually the championship?
Is winning at all cost really that important, having advantage over your opponents and winning with no honour ? :confused:

My friend is still thinking of going to Olmpics next year to watch badminton. I may encourage him NOT to go then... :rolleyes:
 
It was not funny even when you posted this mocking stuff for the first time. Posting it again is just boring and pathetic

aiya, all of you have misunderstood.

I repeat again, Chen Hong was really injured. Li Yongbo ask him to walkover because he was concerned that Chen Hong would injure himself more. Because if CH give walkover, means he can spend more time practising the ancient art of healing. He summore have to go up to the mountains and collect herbs. Then he can heal himself in 2 days and be totally fresh for HK open.

I think thats the lies that LYB and some China fans expect us to believe.
 
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