China Super Series 2007 - Day 6 (Nov 25) - Finals

[Carbonexer]

4. It would be meaningless if the only tournaments such a talented player wins are "assisted ones".

Because LYB is pretty sure that with the "assisted ones" BCL stands no chance against LCW. We have all seen it in the most recent French Open.

 

[roger_beckham]

I'm no prude...
...and I'm no fan of LYB...
...but we certainly could do with better language here

You could, if you want, make your point as emphatically as anyone else without stooping to such levels

ok....sorry about that......that stupid LYB......

 

[Oldhand]

ok....sorry about that......that stupid LYB......

the more apt word would be 'clever' or 'cunning'

 

[jimbo]

the more apt word would be 'clever' or 'cunning'

Havent u heard the "old fox" is more cunning? This scumbag is indeed a cunning fox

 

[ycchen]

WMC should decide to pull out of HK Open. She will be too tired for SEA Games in Korat, starting 6 December. She needed a break badly and she need to rest her injured knee too. I pledge to Wong TM/YKH to pull WMC out of HK Open... give the poor girl a break, she is human, not machine. Afterall winning China Open title and beating the No. 1, No.2, No.3 and No.6 seeds in the world ranking is indeed an impressive task, not forgetting on their very own turf.

i agree with you. she should consider pulling out from HK open. she needs a break. she can now conentrate in bringing more glory to our country during Sea Games in Korat.

 

[extremenanopowe]

well, at least Malaysia won an event. It has been a long long long long.... time since the last person won a ss event like tournament. Well done to WMC. Lei Hou yeh!!! Keep up the good work.

 

[ixory]

Congratulation to WMC!!!!.This is the most exciting WS i've ever saw in this year.Her hardwork,determination and never-die-attitude really worth it.The way she play today is totally awesome.The shuttle kept coming back to XXF court...BRAVO GAL..i'm proud with you!!!

 

[Oldhand]

Two Versions - The Laws Of Badminton

Laws of Badminton - International Version
17. OFFICIALS AND APPEALS
17.1 The Referee shall be in overall charge of the tournament or event of which a match forms part.
17.2 The umpire, where appointed, shall be in charge of the match, the court and its immediate surrounds. The umpire shall report to the Referee.
17.3 The service judge shall call service faults made by the server should they occur (Law 9.1).
17.4 A line judge shall indicate whether a shuttle landed ‘in’ or ‘out’ on the line(s) assigned.
17.5 An official’s decision shall be final on all points of fact for which that official is responsible except that if, in the opinion of the umpire, it is beyond reasonable doubt that a line judge has clearly made a wrong call, the umpire shall overrule the decision of the line judge.
17.6 An umpire shall:
17.6.1 uphold and enforce the Laws of Badminton and, especially, call a ‘fault’ or a ‘let’ should either occur;
17.6.2 give a decision on any appeal regarding a point of dispute, if made before the next service is delivered;
17.6.3 ensure players and spectators are kept informed of the progress of the match;
17.6.4 appoint or replace line judges or a service judge in consultation with the Referee;
17.6.5 where another court official is not appointed, arrange for that official’s duties to be carried out;
17.6.6 where an appointed official is unsighted, carry out that official’s duties or play a ‘let’;

Of course, the makers of the laws didn't envision a scenario in which the umpire and the line-judges are partners-in-crime

Laws of Badminton - China Badminton Version
17. OFFICIALS AND APPEALS
17.1 Li Yongbo shall be in overall charge of the tournament or event of which a match forms part.
17.2 The umpire, where appointed, shall be in charge of the match, the court and its immediate surrounds. The umpire shall report to Li Yongbo.
17.3 The service judge shall call service faults made by the server whether they occur or not, provided Team China is not the server (Law 9.1 - CB Version).
17.4 A line judge shall indicate whether a shuttle landed ‘in’ or ‘out’ on the line(s) assigned. If the shuttle lands anywhere within six inches of the line(s), all such calls shall be 'in' when hit by Team China and 'out' when hit by Team China's opponents. Line judges shall remain alert and vigilant to pounce on every advantageous opportunity.
17.5 An official’s decision shall be final on all points of fact for which that official is responsible except that if, in the opinion of the umpire, it is beyond reasonable doubt that a line judge has clearly made a wrong call in favour of Team China, the umpire shall claim to have been unsighted and desist from overruling the decision of the line judge.
17.6 An umpire shall:
17.6.1 uphold and enforce Li Yongbo's Laws of Badminton and, especially, award the point and serve to Team China should any opportunity arise;
17.6.2 give a decision in favour of Team China on any appeal regarding a point of dispute, if made before the next service is delivered;
17.6.3 ensure Li Yongbo, the players and the spectators are kept informed of the progress of the match;
17.6.4 appoint or replace line judges or a service judge with fresh Team China line judges or a service judge if the BWF Referee is foolish enough to demand so;
17.6.5 where another court official is not appointed, arrange for that official’s duties to be carried out by a Team China member;
17.6.6 where an appointed official is unsighted, carry out that official’s duties or play a ‘let’ to Team China's advantage;

 

[CLELY]

WoW, INA grabbed 2 titles in SS tournament for the first time. And first SS title for both Kindra and Nova/Lilyana. Well done and keep moving to next stop, HKG SS!

Once again, unexpected result for China WS squad. WMC fighting spirit is so amazing, her fairytale story in Panda Land similar with Tine Rasmussen happy ending episode in Tokyo. Yeah, MAS must be proud of her. Congratulations!

Overall, seems this CHN SS is full of controversy, hopefully next time should be better and more professional...

 

[night]

and photo of the umpire.

Thanks Kwun for this foto. I like it.

 

[extremenanopowe]

I believe this win is a classic for WMC. One a life time possibly. Beating so many top players on the way to victory at their own turf is no easy feat. Lets do the dance. (Seen Evan Almighty?). You cool?

 

[night]

c'mon people, sign sign sign.... hopefully then the Olympics will be different:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?bwfpet&1

hmm... how many signatures should i collect before sending it to BWF?

Maybe the quetion should be. How many days should we wait? One week? Less or more?

 

[extremenanopowe]

In sports, money rules. Talk to BWF president la, just around cheras only what. go there and strike.

 

[vching]

Laws of Badminton - International Version
17. OFFICIALS AND APPEALS
17.1 The Referee shall be in overall charge of the tournament or event of which a match forms part.
17.2 The umpire, where appointed, shall be in charge of the match, the court and its immediate surrounds. The umpire shall report to the Referee.
17.3 The service judge shall call service faults made by the server should they occur (Law 9.1).
17.4 A line judge shall indicate whether a shuttle landed ‘in’ or ‘out’ on the line(s) assigned.
17.5 An official’s decision shall be final on all points of fact for which that official is responsible except that if, in the opinion of the umpire, it is beyond reasonable doubt that a line judge has clearly made a wrong call, the umpire shall overrule the decision of the line judge.
17.6 An umpire shall:
17.6.1 uphold and enforce the Laws of Badminton and, especially, call a ‘fault’ or a ‘let’ should either occur;
17.6.2 give a decision on any appeal regarding a point of dispute, if made before the next service is delivered;
17.6.3 ensure players and spectators are kept informed of the progress of the match;
17.6.4 appoint or replace line judges or a service judge in consultation with the Referee;
17.6.5 where another court official is not appointed, arrange for that official’s duties to be carried out;
17.6.6 where an appointed official is unsighted, carry out that official’s duties or play a ‘let’;

Of course, the makers of the laws didn't envision a scenario in which the umpire and the line-judges are partners-in-crime

Laws of Badminton - China Badminton Version
17. OFFICIALS AND APPEALS
17.1 Li Yongbo shall be in overall charge of the tournament or event of which a match forms part.
17.2 The umpire, where appointed, shall be in charge of the match, the court and its immediate surrounds. The umpire shall report to Li Yongbo.
17.3 The service judge shall call service faults made by the server whether they occur or not, provided Team China is not the server (Law 9.1 - CB Version).
17.4 A line judge shall indicate whether a shuttle landed ‘in’ or ‘out’ on the line(s) assigned. If the shuttle lands anywhere within six inches of the line(s), all such calls shall be 'in' when hit by Team China and 'out' when hit by Team China's opponents. Line judges shall remain alert and vigilant to pounce on every advantageous opportunity.
17.5 An official’s decision shall be final on all points of fact for which that official is responsible except that if, in the opinion of the umpire, it is beyond reasonable doubt that a line judge has clearly made a wrong call in favour of Team China, the umpire shall claim to have been unsighted and desist from overruling the decision of the line judge.
17.6 An umpire shall:
17.6.1 uphold and enforce Li Yongbo's Laws of Badminton and, especially, award the point and serve to Team China should any opportunity arise;
17.6.2 give a decision in favour of Team China on any appeal regarding a point of dispute, if made before the next service is delivered;
17.6.3 ensure Li Yongbo, the players and the spectators are kept informed of the progress of the match;
17.6.4 appoint or replace line judges or a service judge with fresh Team China line judges or a service judge if the BWF Referee is foolish enough to demand so;
17.6.5 where another court official is not appointed, arrange for that official’s duties to be carried out by a Team China member;
17.6.6 where an appointed official is unsighted, carry out that official’s duties or play a ‘let’ to Team China's advantage;

haha, you've made my day

 

[vching]

Maybe the quetion should be. How many days should we wait? One week? Less or more?

I'm letting it stand for a week and from there, I'll see what to do depending on the numbers...

 

[george@chongwei]

c'mon people, sign sign sign.... hopefully then the Olympics will be different:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?bwfpet&1

hmm... how many signatures should i collect before sending it to BWF?

i think the best way for the badminton games to be clean n fair, we must like tennis, that gt technology system 1...
can threat the ball in or out..

 

[flymordecai]

About XD, I'm happy that Sudket/Saralee are back in the mix. Did the disappear for a while or were they just unsuccessful getting into later rounds?

 

[s1nn3r]

Laws of Badminton - International Version
17. OFFICIALS AND APPEALS
17.1 The Referee shall be in overall charge of the tournament or event of which a match forms part.
17.2 The umpire, where appointed, shall be in charge of the match, the court and its immediate surrounds. The umpire shall report to the Referee.
17.3 The service judge shall call service faults made by the server should they occur (Law 9.1).
17.4 A line judge shall indicate whether a shuttle landed ‘in’ or ‘out’ on the line(s) assigned.
17.5 An official’s decision shall be final on all points of fact for which that official is responsible except that if, in the opinion of the umpire, it is beyond reasonable doubt that a line judge has clearly made a wrong call, the umpire shall overrule the decision of the line judge.
17.6 An umpire shall:
17.6.1 uphold and enforce the Laws of Badminton and, especially, call a ‘fault’ or a ‘let’ should either occur;
17.6.2 give a decision on any appeal regarding a point of dispute, if made before the next service is delivered;
17.6.3 ensure players and spectators are kept informed of the progress of the match;
17.6.4 appoint or replace line judges or a service judge in consultation with the Referee;
17.6.5 where another court official is not appointed, arrange for that official’s duties to be carried out;
17.6.6 where an appointed official is unsighted, carry out that official’s duties or play a ‘let’;

Of course, the makers of the laws didn't envision a scenario in which the umpire and the line-judges are partners-in-crime

Laws of Badminton - China Badminton Version
17. OFFICIALS AND APPEALS
17.1 Li Yongbo shall be in overall charge of the tournament or event of which a match forms part.
17.2 The umpire, where appointed, shall be in charge of the match, the court and its immediate surrounds. The umpire shall report to Li Yongbo.
17.3 The service judge shall call service faults made by the server whether they occur or not, provided Team China is not the server (Law 9.1 - CB Version).
17.4 A line judge shall indicate whether a shuttle landed ‘in’ or ‘out’ on the line(s) assigned. If the shuttle lands anywhere within six inches of the line(s), all such calls shall be 'in' when hit by Team China and 'out' when hit by Team China's opponents. Line judges shall remain alert and vigilant to pounce on every advantageous opportunity.
17.5 An official’s decision shall be final on all points of fact for which that official is responsible except that if, in the opinion of the umpire, it is beyond reasonable doubt that a line judge has clearly made a wrong call in favour of Team China, the umpire shall claim to have been unsighted and desist from overruling the decision of the line judge.
17.6 An umpire shall:
17.6.1 uphold and enforce Li Yongbo's Laws of Badminton and, especially, award the point and serve to Team China should any opportunity arise;
17.6.2 give a decision in favour of Team China on any appeal regarding a point of dispute, if made before the next service is delivered;
17.6.3 ensure Li Yongbo, the players and the spectators are kept informed of the progress of the match;
17.6.4 appoint or replace line judges or a service judge with fresh Team China line judges or a service judge if the BWF Referee is foolish enough to demand so;
17.6.5 where another court official is not appointed, arrange for that official’s duties to be carried out by a Team China member;
17.6.6 where an appointed official is unsighted, carry out that official’s duties or play a ‘let’ to Team China's advantage;

A GOOD ONE!!! Let's not forget and learn from here... DONT BE LIKE CHINA! Is a shameful act of Terrorism towards BADMINTON! Li Yong Bo please dont kill the game we LOVE!

 

[night]

Unfortunately, the bad line calls undermine the entire game and also one's assessment of the players' performances. When one player is leading and loses his focus owing to bad line calls, the opponent's 'performance' from that point onwards does not reflect his real form. A player's form and performance in a match is relative to his/her opponent's performance. If his/her opponent does not lose focus and can execute smart game plan with good attacking and defending skills, the player's performance may not be as great. The fact that BCL started to pick up successive points after several bad line calls that affected LCW's concentration is not only unfair to LCW. It is also unfair to BCL, because it makes it impossible for one to judge the true performance and form of BCL. We cannot say that he was in smashing form or was performing superbly when LCW's loss of concentration does not allow the latter to perform well. Had LCW's performed well, BCL might or might not perform as well as what he did. So the fact that LCW has been prevented from performing his best in such an unfair manner makes any assessment of BCL's performance unjustified.

Well said, but some ppl just couldn't see it...

 

[s1nn3r]

Well said, but some ppl just couldn't see it...

Nobody wanna see it! People want JUSTICE… We love the game & we wont let THIS INJUSTICE spoil the game image !!!! If this continue BAdMINTON might be booted out of Olympic next time!