Denmark Open Draw

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  1. seven

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    The draw is on worldbadminton.net ...

    And there is obviously a mistake in MS : Lee Chong Wei is playing qualifications, though he is now world no 43!!
     
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    Huang Sui seems to be the only top player missing in Denmark...
    injury?? anyone knows?
     
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    Nightmare for Malaysians awaiting!

    Wong CH is placed in the toughest quarter with 2 players whom he does not enjoy playing with. Will face Taufik in last 16, and winner will play world no 1, Chen Hong.

    Tough luck for the 2 Lee s from Malaysia, as well. Should Lee CW proceed to the main draw, he will meet world champion, Xia XZ.

    Lee TS will play Lee HI in round 1.

    Roslin Hashim is the luckiest of the lot. He has the best chance among his countrymen to advance to semis. Has Sony as last 16 opponent, and winner to play Kenneth Jonassen, with whom Roslin has very good record.
     
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    IBF computer system is full of bugs

    or maybe they manipulates the draw not randomly.

    Lee CW by no means needs to be in the qualification draw.

    Roslin plays with Boonsak 1st round three times in a row.

    Chen Yu, Bao CL, Xia XZ all collide again within the 1/16.

    .........

    Can IBF generate true random numbers? I don't think so.
     
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    It's really Boonsak's bad luck to be facing Roslin in round 1 again. Hopefully in these two weeks he has gone home and come up with something against his jinx.

    This draw is indeed quite screwed up. Bao's ranking is dropping simply because he's been playing his teammates in early rounds. If such draws continue, then we're just gonna have a vicious cycle of unrealistic rankings and bad draws.

    Just to add on, Chan/Chew will be playing Fu/Cai in round one. Tough luck. They're not in the best of form and will need a good run in some tournament to rebuild their confidence.
     
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    I can't bear the way of the draw.
     
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    I just re-examined the draw of Danish and Msia. Even just for the last time, it is quite wierd that Xia XZ, Bao CL, and Chen Yu all in the same 1/16. You can argue that it is mathematically okay provided that Xia was the 3rd seed, Bao was the 13th seed and Chen Yu was unseeded. Now to Danish open, Due to these three's bad luck at Malaysia open, Xia downgrades to the 4th seed, Bao and Chen down grade further as unseeded. But astonishingly, they all still at the same spot of the draw! :eek: What is really going on here???:confused: :confused: :confused:

    To give IBF the maximum understanding, all these are okay, then for Xia, the chance at the same spot of the draw is 50%, then for Bao and Chen, the chance are nearly only 1/64 respectively. Therefore, the chance of repeat of this strange draw for these three are 50%*(1/64)*(1/64) = 0.000122. :rolleyes:

    which means that we need arrange 8192 matches, then this wierd draw could happen again. If we arrange 32 matches for one big 64 players tounament, then we need 256 big tounaments to repeat. If we have 10 big such tounaments a year, we need 25.6 years to wait to see this happen again.

    Now we just see this happy again consectively within 2 weeks. IBF is so great that it saves us 25.6 years of waiting to make the miracle happen again!!!
     
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    Note: it takes 25.6 years to see any two players plus one 3rd-4th seeds at the same spots. But if we want to see Bao, Xia and Chen at the same spots again, it should take 819.2 years :eek:

    IBF made it happen within just 2 weeks! Marvelness job!
     
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    Simply awesome!!:mad: :mad:
    Unfortunately the world are not blind!
     
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    Mars came the closest to Earth recently. During the existence of Earth, what were the chances that it would happen during our lifetime?

    Maybe IBF software is good for throwing randomly impossible events together? Hey, maybe we should use it to predict our lottery numbers!:D
     
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    Lee Chong Wei

    All this doesn't explain how Lee Choong Wei can be in the qualifications, this is simply IMPOSSIBLE!!!!
    (this isn't random)
     
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    Re: Lee Chong Wei

    Well, according to IBF official web site. http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=10&ItemID=1317
    it seemed that they did it on purpose for putting Lee Chong Wei in the qualification in order to show this open is "the ferocious battle".

    Next time, you bet they could put Chen Hong, the number one ranked player, into the qualication to show the open is really super hot!

    One reason is that Lee CW is ranked 43. You know that the element 43 is the only radioactive element before 64. Maybe that is the reason.

    IBF is just too smart for us, incorrigible dump badminton fans.
     
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    I mailed IBF about the draw, and here is the answer :

    LEE Chong Wei (50152) (MAS) is correctly placed in the qualifying draw of
    the Denmark Open. The main & qualifying entries were based on the World
    Ranking 4 September and not the seeding date of 11 September.

    Regards


    This explains things, though I can't understand why they didn't use the latest ranking available!!
     
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    But CAI/FU of china is seed number 4,which according the seeding date of 11 September.Why?
     
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    In fact, if I understand correctly, placing players/pairs in qualifications OR in the main draw has been worked out according to world ranking of 4 September, whereas the seeds have been worked out according to world ranking of 11 September.

    Why don't they use the same ranking for both? I don't know...
    Maybe they need to know in advance who is in qualifications and who is in the main draw??...

    If anyone has any clue...
     
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    I also find that the seeds draw of denmark open's ws is the fully same with the malaysian open's ws.
     
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    According to http://www.bbeshop.com (in chinese) the reason for Gao Ling/Huang Sui to skip Denmark Open is to ensure that Gao Ling can concentrate on her mixed double with Zhang Jun.
     
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    Another strange thing happens in the ladies draw. From world champ, Singapore open, Indon open, Malaysia open, now to Denmark open, 4 Chinese girls always in 1st,2nd and 4th quarters, and leave the 3rd quarter open for Camila Martin who is not the top 4 seed. This possibility is :

    (3/4)*(3/4)*(3/4)*(3/4)*(3/4)*(1/4)*(1/4)*(1/4)*(1/4)*(1/4) = 0.0002

    This is also an impossible thing statistically!!!!

    :mad: :mad: :mad:

    We can conclude that the draw must be manipulated!!!
    :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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    Darn, the thing don't work with Mozilla Firebird!
     
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    I wonder if IBF audits their draws and seeding positions;)
     

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