French Open 2007 - Day 4 - Nov 2nd - Quarter-finals

Discussion in 'Dutch Open / Denmark Open / French Open 2007' started by robin7, Nov 1, 2007.

  1. Han

    Han Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    Likes Received:
    6
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Milpitas CA, USA
    I agreed, I would have told the umpire. However, no need to be so harsh on KKK/TBH about their lost in QF as they did won the Denmark open title. I think many Malaysian fan would have been satisfied before the trip if question were asked about winning only one title. I am very please with them.
     
  2. ye333

    ye333 Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    2,613
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    US
    I totally disagree. Maybe when Koo and Tan are veterans, they can do as you said. But they are young now. If they choose not to tell, then the fact that they benefited unfairly may linger inside their heads and work against them psychologically.

    Besides, I don't think a player can still be called a "great sportsman" if he/she choose not to tell the umpire under such situation. For example, I cannot imagine ZJH doing that kind of thing.

     
  3. Han

    Han Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    Likes Received:
    6
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Milpitas CA, USA
    We call this kind of different in opinion the "Generation Gap". We are from the "old school", my friend :D
     
  4. vching

    vching Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    8
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Brisbane!
    I do agree that the sportsmenship thing to do was to notify the umpire. But under such condition, I don't blame Koo and Tan for keeping quiet. I think the Japanese pair would have done the same thing. After all, Koo and Tan were not instigating anything. It was a faulty call by the umpire, and Koo and Tan merely chose to keep quiet. I have seen many instances where players knew it was a faulty call but decided to keep quiet. It is not be in the spirit of the game, I know, but you cannot blame Koo and Tan for just doing nothing.... ZJH may not have done it, but then again, how many badminton players are like ZJH today?
     
  5. vching

    vching Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    8
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Brisbane!
  6. vching

    vching Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    8
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Brisbane!
  7. Oldhand

    Oldhand Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2005
    Messages:
    6,843
    Likes Received:
    108
    Occupation:
    Broadcast Systems Integration
    Location:
    Asia
    Shameful

    I'd rate this as the most shameful declaration I've seen in this forum. :(
    (Incidentally, isn't this the same vching who was whining and whining and whining about China 'cheating'???? :eek: )

    No one with any self-esteem would condone cheating... and I wonder what kind of example KKK and TBH have set for future players. Shameful!

    Look at the flip side... if they'd been sporting and gracious enough to correct the call, that gesture would have endeared both them and Malaysia to every badminton fan.

    Instead, they have blackened Malaysia's name and lost the game too (which is what eventually happens to cheats). :mad:

    To term an incident of blatant cheating as 'tactical play' is bizarre! :eek:
    I don't know what books you read... but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone who believes in fairness and sportsmanship. :cool:

    I'd also like to know who these 'good sportsmen' are that you cite in favour of cheating.
    If they cheat or endorse cheating, how could they be good anymore? :eek:

    (There's nothing unfortunate about the crowd turning against a cheating team... it's quite the thing that happens at any civilized sporting venue.
    Hats off to the French crowd for not endorsing such contemptible 'tactical play'.)

    Tactical mind games, my foot :D:D:D:D:D
     
  8. jug8man

    jug8man Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2003
    Messages:
    2,123
    Likes Received:
    6
    Occupation:
    MultiTasked guy, Stress Addict, Leisure Bum, mad c
    Location:
    Malaysia
    What happen to Lu Lan??? Did she hurt herself in the game???

    Game 1 was so easy. Game 2 was leading then like somethign happened. Game 3................

    Any one with info?
     
  9. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    29,923
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    MIA
    pi hong yan was playing very well in her home crowd in the 2nd n 3rd set respectively...
     
  10. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    29,923
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    MIA
    yess!!!very happy that wong mew choo advanced to the semi final....
    2day she will up against XXF...
    hope that WMC can through to the final...
     
  11. Han

    Han Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    Likes Received:
    6
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Milpitas CA, USA
    For Mew Cho to win, she needs to have more arsenal under her wings as pure long rally will not do the job. Mew Cho needs to improve her attacking and net play to stand any chance against the lengthy XXF. Good luck to Mew Cho!
     
  12. vching

    vching Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    8
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Brisbane!
    You call Koo and Tan cheating? They didn't to anything! How did they even cheat? They didn't say anything! Theres a fine line between not wanting to get involved and cheating. Cheating is when they go up to the umpire and say the shot was in. They didn't do it...

    It is tactical mind games.... I have seen many players, Lee Chong Wei, Lin Dan and Taufik refuse to say anything when the shot was blatantly bad. They aren't cheating. They are just keeping quiet, and letting the call that favored them stand.

    How can they cheat when they didn't do anything?

    It would have been wrong if Koo and Tan went to the umpire and said: The shot was in. Instead they decided to do nothing. How can that be cheating? Sure, it may be unsportsmenlike, but they are not cheating.

    I find it offensive for you to call Koo and Tan cheats. They are not cheats. I stand by my initial stand that from what I heard, those were merely mind games. They did not do anything.

    I did not see the match, hence I don't really know what happened, but from what i heard, Koo and Tan were not cheating.

    I find it ironic that the same people that berated me for alleging Chinese foulplay are now calling Koo and Tan, and Lee, last week, cheats. Hippocrites.
     
  13. sweetlover

    sweetlover Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    STUDENT
    Location:
    everywhere i want to
    whatevers happened to koo n tan i will alwayz behind them....!!!
    hope lww-ctf can defeat mk-hs today n book a ticket for final...!!!
    MAY GOD BLESS OUR PLAYERS...!!!
    MALAYSIA BOLEH...!!!
     
  14. sweetlover

    sweetlover Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    STUDENT
    Location:
    everywhere i want to
    i agree with u vching....
    our players not a cheater...!!!
    they just played the game n lost...
    thats all...!!!
     
  15. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    29,923
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    MIA
    choong/lee will up against othsuka/matsuda 2day......
    MK/HS had lost to choong/lee yterday....
     
  16. sweetlover

    sweetlover Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    STUDENT
    Location:
    everywhere i want to
    opssss...
    sorry....:eek:

    yup...
    hope to see lww-ctf defeat the japanese...
    revenge for kkk-tbh lose yesterday...:)
     
  17. sweetlover

    sweetlover Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    STUDENT
    Location:
    everywhere i want to
    thanks for ur correction bro...!!!
     
  18. zqloy

    zqloy Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    1,484
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Malaysia
    Courtesy has become a luxury under the new scoring system. Somebody found Koo/Tan keeping quiet as "cheating", thats ridiculous! They were just silly for being quiet. Im sure Rexy will lecture them bout this....
     
    #2078 zqloy, Nov 2, 2007
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2007
  19. chris-ccc

    chris-ccc Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    26,902
    Likes Received:
    33
    Occupation:
    Professional Badminton Coach & Badminton Promoter
    Location:
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Let's move on to the French SS 2007 - Day 5 - Saturday, 3-Nov-2007 - Semi Finals

    OK, let's move on......

    To the French Super Series 2007 - Day 5 - Saturday, 3-Nov-2007 - Semi Finals.

    :):):)
    *
     
    #2079 chris-ccc, Nov 2, 2007
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2007
  20. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    29,923
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    MIA
    you`re welcome:)
     

Share This Page