IBF Changes to Make Game Attractive

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  1. Loh

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    Reported in today's Straits Times, it appears that IBF President, Kang Young Hoon and Deputy President Punch Gunalan met the press for an informal session during the Aviva Open Singapore 2005 yesterday and revealed a draft list of possible changes to make badminton more attractive:

    Scoring:

    * Implement 21-point system.
    * Player has to win with at least two-point difference.
    * After 29-29, the first to reach 30 points wins.

    Doubls matches

    * Removing the inside baseline.
    * One service instead of two.

    World League

    * Men's event, to be implemented by 2009.
    * Each country can send only one team, of which two members must be from the country itself.

    Dressing

    * Aim to make the sport more trendy and attractive to attract younger generation.
    * Possible changes to players' dress code (men and women).

    I'm sure there are many related questions that are left unanswered, but that was all that I gathered from the ST source.

    Maybe you wish to ask as many questions to clarify? ;)
     
  2. Netasia

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    does that mean that players now only play 1-set of 21 points?

    Doubles "One service instead of two", only the person on the right have the service?
     
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    all scoring changes are bs except the one where you have to win by two similar to volleyball and tennis deuces
     
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    We here in our locality have been playing 1 to 21 but still with two serves and not the rally system. The system gives the tournament organizers better time management because the schedules can be more accurate. The reason for this is that there will be no more third and deciding game in case of a tie. :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    and even still when they get to 29-29 first to 30 wins....what kind of dumb rule is that? It's like the deciding set in tennis and saying that when the score is 7-7 the next set wins...
     
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    i feel like Vomiting.
     
  8. It'sMeMeMe

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    i don't think by making the set 21 point in order to eliminate third set in case of a tie will make it easier for the television to schedule

    the problem lies in the uncertainty of badminton not the point system
    especially in doubles play (2 serves)
    1 team already won first set
    then in second set leading 0-13 or 14
    but the losing team can still catch up and win it which then will be a third set

    i really don't see changing the set to 21 will improve on that
    because i think the time of badminton matches actually depends on skills of both sides

    the more both sides have more equal skills and ability and mentality, the longer the match .
    doesn't matter 1 set 2 set or 3 set
    look at tennis matches

    can last very short but can last very long too, but doesn't seem to have problem?
    so why television complain about badminton time?

    why won't just admit that they like tennis more than badminton
    just sore television loser director
     
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    They need 'badminton TV' or something similar. Most people that watch big sports networks won't even give badminton a chance. I've seen more cricket on TV in Canada than badminton.
     
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    I would say the more suitable title for this article is "IBF Changes to Make Game Less Attractive"
     
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    Amen..

    What a bunch of :confused:
    Why change a sport that's already the best in the world.
    I think changing a sport because of commercial issues is a really bad thing to do!!
     
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    Basically the sport is still the same. The strokes,games etc. What they are changing is the flow and technical aspecs of it.
     
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    Hm.. I read the article also. 21 points.. but how many sets? with this rule, I think I should concentrate on doubles, no more singles:D as I think it will be very tiring. remove the backline for double? no way man..
     
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    It is a best of 3 sets.
     
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    Some of the uncertainty will be removed. There will be an absolute maximum number of rallies in a game. 59. The actual duration is still uncertain, but the expected duration will be less.
     
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    maximum number of rallies? :eek:
     
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    every rally scores a point, and there is a maximum score of 30-29, so each game has a maximum of 59 rallies
     
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    Real games replayed using 21 point scoring system

    Real games replayed using 21 point scoring system

    original score & rallies / 21pt score & rallies and what the original score was when 21pt ended

    2004 TC Kenneth Jonassen v Bao Chunlai
    15-12 43 / 22-20 42 (14-12)
    15-17 61 / 19-21 40 (9-10)
    12-15 47 / 18-21 39 (10-13)

    2004 AE Peter Gade v Lin Dan
    15-9 55 / 21-17 38 (8-5)
    5-15 39 / 12-21 33 (5-13)
    8-15 33 / 13-20 33 (8-15) 21pt game would be longer than original

    2001 AE Chen Hong v Roslin Hashim
    10-15 42 / 18-21 39 (10-12)
    17-16 86 / 21-23 44 (8-10) 21pt match finished 0-2 to Roslin
    15-12 55 / 21-18 39 (10-7) Original match finished 2-1 to Chen

    1998 TC Sun Jun v Heryanto Arbi
    17-18 78 / 24-22 46 (12-10)
    15-4 36 / 21-11 32 (14-4) 21pt match finished 2-0 to Sun Jun
    15-1 38 / 21-9 30 (12-0) Original match finished 2-1 to Sun Jun

    1998 GP Sun Jun v Peter Gade
    15-11 53 / 21-18 39 (11-9)
    15-8 45 / 21-16 37 (12-7)

    rallies: Average min max
    before 51 33 86
    after 38 30 46

    it's only a small sample of games, but you can see that games have become about 25% shorter, but are of a more consistent length.
     
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    then doubles could be more than 25% shorter as only 1 serve is allowed by side
     
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    Great sharing.. you really watch the games and count the points and time?
     

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