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    Usually, I never follow junior nationals.. But this time , something came to me as surprise when I read this news. That's why sharing this news.


    http://m.timesofindia.com/Sports/Ba...r-badminton-quarters/articleshow/45062356.cms

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    Results (ROUND 2)

    U-19 Girls singles ,

    Vaishnvi bhale bt yeshashwini nandanoori 21-12,21-9
    Mrunmayi saoji bt gauri asija 21-12, 21-7

    U-17, Mugdha Agrey lost to Gayatri Gopichand Pullela 14-21,21-17,14-21

    Yes indeed.. gopichand's daughter is playing U-17 girls singles. She is just 11 years old. Very very interesting.
     
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    A really nice article that tries to put some tabs on the over excitement of recent success by Indian Badminton and I am glad some level headed person still exists in an otherwise cacophonic Indian Media. Rather than jumping on to the bandwagon of excessive praising and overt excitement of an incredible, although expected, moment in Indian Badminton history. With long list of players already in top 50 both of men's and women's sections, it's only natural that India would have eventually achieved sooner or later.

    The author makes a good point of not getting ahead of themselves to both players and public. Its just one win although its worth celebrating but should not be overtly done. Their wins will be valued only when they repeated and only when they achieve the pinnacle i.e. Gold at Olympics.
    I think the respect earned through hard work, humility and modesty has more value to it...

    Below is the link to that article with some excerpts:

    http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/TmF...-and-Saina-Nehwal-achieve-an-Indian-vict.html

    Is India’s twin triumph at the China Open really a sign that we are anywhere close to challenging China’s dominance in the sport? Srikanth is super-talented, no doubt, and his win over Lin is a stupendous achievement. But it is also true that Lin, at 31, is past his prime. Those who have seen him in his epic battles with Lee Chong Wei at the Olympics or the World Championships would know that he was not at his best against Srikanth, and playing well within himself, as he was coming back from an ankle injury. We will know the true import of Srikanth’s win over Lin only over the next year or so, when it will become clearer if he has it in him to win consistently against the world’s best.
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    We have every right to take pleasure in the achievements of Srikanth and Nehwal. But while we do, let us not forget that their success owes very little to their country of birth. These are extraordinary stories of individual success, made possible by other extraordinary lovers of the sport such as Gopichand. But the inspiring stories of individual stars are one thing. That of a nation’s relationship to a sport is another. It doesn’t help to confuse the one with the other.



    Read more at: http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/TmF...l-achieve-an-Indian-vict.html?utm_source=copy
     
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    Wow under 17 at 11 that is impressive. Do you know how far she went in the tournament?
     
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    Cheung,


    If you are referring to the article that I posted then I have to disagree with anyone who feels that the article's commentary is unjustified.


    It's perfectly justified. The author says that its only one win so far (against LD) and he has to do it few more times which is true. SK is known as much for his unorthodox aggressive play as for his inconsistency. Yet, he the best shuttler India has produced in recent times. He may even surpass Prakash and Gopi provided he works on his weaknesses.


    I think India has come beyond the point of proving themselves.... There is nothing left to prove 'coz everyone is aware that Indian players are world-class, at least in the singles section. They no longer feel inferior to anyone rather they have they have become a reference point for other upcoming players or countries to follow.


    So, personally, I don't feel chest-thumping, mud-slinging and patronizing are needed to protect your favorite player. I am don't feel that I have to protect SK at any cost. But based on his recent form I can be sure when I say he beat LD tactically and technically.


    There is a reason why LD is called a genius. He is called genius because of his ability to improvise his tactics or style of play, Injury or no injury. I am sure he would've beaten SK if he hadn't had the niggling knee. But he should've beaten underdog SK regardless with his genius. He couldn't 'coz SK was playing a game at par with him. In fact, SK out did LD on few occasions which is why he won. LD is a player who can beat fairly talented even with a niggling knee.
     
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    I agree with you. I think Indian men's singles just need to find that little 'magic' or self belief that propels them into consistent top 20 and then top 10.

    However, that post I linked was rather sarcastic and unhappy that a recent knee injury would attribute to a player's loss of performance.

    Objectively, since the match was close and the loser had restricted ability in the knee, it shows that even KS (and coaches) will need to find the X factor in the coming year to maintain success.

    On another note, did the IBL help the Indian players?

    Their results slumped a fair bit afterwards.
     
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    I disagree with you .. unfortunately, you are not following tournaments I guess. After IBL , many indian players has taken GPG title or GP title or even common wealth gold title or super series premium title or what else you expect.

    India is still not in the elite group. But they are capable to fight against the elite players. So many league tournaments are there in china, indonesia etc. What happened? Shall I take liberty to say, they are going in the downward direction?. So, CBSL does not doing its part to improving their game?.

    India is not badminton following country. Only after saina's bronze medal at london olympics and after introduction of IBL, the reach has gone to some extent which is totally in the positive direction.

    Srikanth beating lindan in straight games is one example. So what else we need.. so, definitely, I take liberty to say MS players are improving.. period.
     
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    I do tend to concentrate on the SS tourneys more. So for a period of time, we weren't seeing Indian men's players make an impact in SS just after IBL.

    Perhaps they had changed the tournament plan slightly to concentrate on GP series before coming back to SS?

    Can't understand not seeing RMV around more. He's a player I like.

    Pity Arvind Bhat hasn't come to HK this year. Very pleasant person to socialise with.
     
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    Guru is not in the same league as that of kashyap and prannoy or srikanth. I think he is given a chance to prove in china and hongkong. But he lost to srikanth in the first round at china open. Infact srikanth said in an interview that his first round match was the toughest one in the tournament(i mean , against gurusaidutt)

    Guru is playing in the first round against sho sasaki in hongkong open. Going to be tough.

    Arvind bhat is not in the core group. So, whenever he finds time apart from his work (mechanical engineer), he is participating in certain tournaments.

    Oh.. I forgot .. I think you are residing in hong kong.. Are you one of the administrators(organisers) of the tournament?.

    Am really Sorry if you feel my previous post( reply) to be so direct.
     
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    So Gopichand's 11 year old daughter is competing at u-17 national level. That's interesting.

    As for the article, I think that is somewhat paranoid.
    So, unless it's a gold at olympics, it is not valuable?
    I don't agree. China open SSP win in both MS and WS is big. And badminton does need some attention in Indian media.
     
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    What exactly is the role of Madhumita Bisht in the sqaud? I dont see any role of her except for confusing the players by acting too animated. Players hardly seem to listen to her during the break.
     
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    For clapping ...:p
     
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    [MENTION=37720]scorpion[/MENTION],

    Not an administrator. But some people might regard me as being well known.:)
     
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    Clear answer for you... see the picture why she is there ..


    https://mobile.twitter.com/Pvsindhu1/status/536105531065126913/photos
     
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    I don't SK would have won the China Open if not, partly, for Madhumita Bisht. She's doing a great job in keeping the players motivated and advising them right tactics to apply from the sidelines of the court. Gopi relying on her heavily of late. I think is a good sign.
     
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    Congratulation Ruthvika shivani for getting her first senior title today. Won Tata open badminton international challenge 2014 WS title beating compatriot very experienced Arundhathi pantawane (4th seed)in 3 games 19-21, 21-18, 21-14. On the way to finals, she has beaten saili rane(3rd seed) as well. She is 17 now.
    She is taller than sindhu. Hope she does well in the future.

    CONGRATS TO RUTHVIKA SHIVANI.
     
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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...onal-Games-badminton/articleshow/45646068.cms

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    Both karnataka and kerala are not included for team events of badminton national games.
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    Unfortunate... if at all, they want to produce quality players, they need to allow these two teams to play the team events.. if they shut these two out, they are shutting down some of the big names such as Saina, sindhu, srikanth, ajay jayaram, kadhyap , jwala, aswini etc.. Really a bad approach by BADMINTON ASSOCIATION OF INDIA. :(
     
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