Is my Yonex Armortec 800 Offensive broken?

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  1. DinkAlot

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    The leather pads are home made, just get a leather piece, cut out and put them on all the supports, anywhere the racket makes contact with the stringing machine. It provides padding and friction. Good stuff...

    ...I'm going to try poly tubing because it grips better.
     
  2. jerby

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    ah I see...that's also the only problem I've got with my plastic insert. with out the sidesupports the racket can turn a lot..
     
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    I always leave spaces at 12 and 6 o'clock position in my 2 points machine, can help but not essential, deboss still can be found, but the degree will be lighter. On the other hand, I always use up all the lenght of 12 and 6 o'clock position with my store's 4 points machine and this problem never exist. When you get two stringing machine, you can make a comparision.

    But would it to be the problem 12' and 6' o'clock is too tight and the electronic machine is too powerfull????
     
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    After being re-strung, was the head of the racquet the same (oval) shape as your posted pic?

    If yes, then the stringer has distorted the Iso-shape / design and caused the frame to fail.

    Cheers!
     
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    I am current using the remaining handle grips to be the cushion (or padding), the result is quite good, but need time to stick each thin grips to be a thick cushion. :p
     
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    hey dude, no worries, you are in CANADA right? I am from Vancouver and one of my friends had an experience like that with one of the Sport Chek stores here... However, (I was with him when we pick up the racquet) we found a crack right away around the same location except it is outside instead of a instead crack. We of course stood in front of the counter and talked to the manager. But anyhow, at the end, my friend got a brand new NS8000(same as cracked racquet) except his old one is SP and this new one is CD(dis code). I presonally worked in big chain retail stores myself before. Something like that if you can prove it is the Stringer's fault or his machine(which is the same to me either way), YOU SHOULD definitely be able to get a new replacement even though they might not SELL the same item in store. In this case, the manager told us the store ended up paying for a new NS 8000 CD cause the SP wasn't qualify for claiming in Yonex Canada. Just keep in mind, this is what you have to do, argue with them that the crack is an inside crack(so is not caused by a clash) and STAND YOUR GROUND... Make a scene if you have to (get emotional if you have to). At work, I have seen customers get away with exchanging things that should not be eligible for exchange BECAUSE they just keep on fighting with the manager. AGAIN, in your case, you should feel no shame on getting a replacement as they are the ones who SCREWED it up. Hope this help. Good luck
     
  7. malayali

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    Where can I buy the Gosen type plastic insert that you have mentioned here ???

     
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    Thanks for the tips. My initial plan is to go back to Sports Experts this evening and fight with them until they agree to give me a new racket. By "fight", I mean discuss and argue in a politically correct manner.
     
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    Sounds like a plan, :D

    In my experience, chain-stores generally end up giving in. I've had a couple of racquets previously in my earlier badminton years where I used the factory string, and the string broke, not at all damaging the racquet, but I got them to RMA the racquet for me and give me a brand new one straight away (as they didn't have re-stringing services at their store), - And it was because Factory string Isn't really meant to break on most brands' racquets. (e.g. it's high strength, 0.75 to 0.9mm usually, but not for all brands at all, nor higher end racquets usually).

    You should be able to get it replaced, just be firm and state you've got other stringers' opinions on the matters Etc., but be respectful at the same time remembering they won't just replace the racquet straight away if you walk in there being plain rude :)

    Good luck!
     
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    If they don't give you a new one ,don't go back to this shop ,but sand it to paris or anyone come to paris ,I can repair with epoxy glue and glass fiber!
    MING good luck!
     
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    #31 Pete LSD, Feb 22, 2006
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    That's a witty use of the grip. I may try that, thanks! :D
     
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    sportchek and sport experts are sport chain stores here.

    if one is lucky, their stringing will just warp your racket, missing grommets, wrong tension and other laughable mishaps (one job i saw a ti6 that look almost like a perfect circle)

    if ur unlucky, u get inflicted with some kind of kiss of death diseased string job like in this case
     
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    Remind me to bring my stringing machine if I ever visit the Great White North to play Bad. :p
     
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    No need! I will torture your racquet with my machine ;).

     
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    My rackets can take your string jobs of 30x33lbs. :eek: but I cannot... :p

    ...at least I never tried 30x33...maybe I should just for fun. :D :D :D

    Back on topic: I hope DaMaster gets a replacement/refund and I sincerely hope the stringer does a better job.
     
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    I always think you are located in HK. :)
     
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    I probably forgot to update my profile :D . . . but I do appear in HK from time to time :cool:.

     
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    This is a typical example of a poor stringer, using a suspension system stringing machine, overstretching the two posts at the 12 and 6 o'clock. In a suspension system the two top and throat posts must not be stretched too much. The racquet frame should be mounted in such a way that it is held down firmly but no stretching. A good test is to try to remove the mounted racquet on a suspension system, and if it comes off easily then it is too lose but if doesn't come off even with some effort then you have overstretched it. It may surprise you that leaving the mounted frame slightly tight is safer than having it very tight. This is especially so if you string to 33lbs or above. Also the two top and throat posts are silicone padded, and you shouldn't add additional pads. In fact adding pads at the posts may be even dangerous at very high tensions because there is too much 'give' (similar to mounting the frame too loose) at both ends when stringing the middle main strings at 30lbs+.
     

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