Kenichi Tago ( 田児賢一 )

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  1. kwun

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    tough choice. he must feel like a convicted felon and no one accepts him in his own country. but a man needs a job and the income to continue to life and put food on the table. his whole life has probably been badminton and know nothing else outside of it. it doesn't make sense for him at 26 to start anew and find a desk job or flip burgers. locals badminton establishment don't want him for his has tarnished his own reputation so his only choice is to go abroad. and it is incredible that these clubs in Malaysia has so much money.

    i am sure this is not what he wanted but just a part of reality. he screwed up and now his life has been turned up side down.

    but i do hope that he will find something that is suitable for him and wish him luck.
     
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    Tago's already given a chance by Malaysian Purple League team to play again only to be stopped again by the NBA. Why would the NBA do such a mean thing to him, they wouldn't let him play in Japan but also not letting him play in Malaysian Purple League now? What do they expect him to do, to end his life?
     
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    Some Malaysian teams already approached and showed interests in recruiting him for the Purple League but seems Tago couldn't get the permit by the NBA. This really mounted my hatred towards NBA. I'm so boycotting Japanese stuffs until they let Tago play abroad as he wanted.
     
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    NBA'S bullying and being so cruel to Tago. He's offered to play in Malaysia but denied the permit even though they already kicked him out of the association. They don't have the right to deny a man a second chance in life. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Tago should just change his nationality and get the hell out of Japan.
     
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    Now I understand why people in Japan choose to end their lives when they made a mistake or lose honor. It's because they will be denied to make a return even if there are open doors. There will be bullying, public shame and shunning by the authority and society. This is so sick and cruel at how you treat a human being. Seems there's no such thing as to learn from the past, to forgive and to forget for the Japanese.
     
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    http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20160508-00000016-sph-spo

    This is the article circulating in our WA chat group regarding Tago rejected release by NBA to play in Purple League.

    Please anyone could help with Japanese translation and why the NBA wouldn't let him play even though he's kicked out of the organization?
     
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    I just give this article a try and try my best to translate it. Mat not be so accurate due to my limited Japanese knowledge.

    Kenichi Tago who have been deregistered by the Nippon badminton association from bwf due to betting at illegal casinos have shown his intention to play abroad in Malaysia as he has played before in Malaysia Pro League named Purple League. However. The Nippon badminton association has rejected it and disallowed him from doing so.


    The statement states that Kenichi Tago must respect all the decision made by Nippon badminton association with regards to his wish to play in Malaysia Purple League. Kenichi Tago must be granted the permission by Nippon badminton association if he wished to play in Malaysia Purple League. The Malaysia Purple League consists of 14 teams in 2014. Many badminton players from various countries have played in Malaysia Purple League before. However, Kenichi Tago is still a member of Japanese badminton association while he was still enrolled and working for NTT East.
     
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    If he's been permanently banned from Japan badminton, there's no reason anymore for him to be a member of Japanese badminton association, is there?
     
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    To further clarify, it is extremely difficult to understand the Japanese culture and their way of doing things. We need to be someone who have stayed before in Japan or at least be a Japanese to understand this culture.





    Well as for me I have this great and wonderful opportunity to stay in Japan for a couple of years. Due to that I was able to understand Japanese culture and know the way they do things quite well. In Japan they strictly follow the rules and discipline comes first before everything else.






    This also apply for Kenichi Tago case. Illegal betting is disallowed in Japan as it indirectly fund the Japanese Yakuza. Yes from a certain point if view this seem cruel to the players. But then the players have already been briefed and told about the consequences if they break the law. So the players shouldn't even try doing it.








    Then as I have said earlier I knew the procedure to play overseas is not going to be easy although Kenichi Tago wanted to. Nippon badminton association will never grant him the permission to do so.







    That is why from the beginning I stated that the article saying that Kenichi Tago wanted to play overseas is just a rumor until the news have been confirmed so indeed it is true.








    Hence I also cannot comment much about Japanese strict culture. To them such an incident illegal betting is a humiliating thing and they won't forgive the Japanese who do so be it who they are. Thank you.
     
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    Yes this you are right. But then right now Nippon badminton association is really trying to punish his players for the mistake that they have done including banning them from playing badminton forever no matter where they are. This is the case.
     
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    So sorry to say I have to conclude here that Kenichi Tago badminton career is as good as over as he won't be allowed to play anymore.





    I sincerely pray and hope that Kenichi Tago will remain positive and not chose to commit suicide due to all the difficulties that he is facing now.






    That is why committing suicide has become a norm in Japan because somehow or other your country will push you to the limit even for the smallest mistakes that you have done and you will feel so imperfect about it. Those are the factors that can really drive someone to commit suicide.





    I will continue to pray for Kenichi Tago future and hope he will remain positive.
     
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    So I will just conclude here by saying that Kenichi Tago had the intention to play overseas in Malaysia after he has been kicked out from the Japanese badminton team. Malaysia badminton clubs have never promised Kenichi Tago anything. Kenichi Tago intended to play under Malaysia Purple League.









    However, it is very unfortunate to note that the Nippon badminton association never grant him the permission to play hence he cannot go overseas to play in Malaysia.
     
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    Thanks so much for the translation blabl.

    On our chat group, some mentioned that NBA said that Malaysian side should respect them and their decision even they're interested in Tago which prompted the Malaysian to withdraw their approach?

    What's the NBA's logic and right to prohibit Tago from playing in Malaysia if he's already ditched by them?
     
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    Kenichi in other words can't and shouldn't take on professional badminton as a job ever in his lifetime anywhere? He is now also unmployed since terminated by his company NTT right? That is harsh.

    The door is closed for him to play badminton ever anywhere if he remains a JPN citizen?

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    Sorry for the late reply. Sorry but I need to be truthful to you. Kenichi Tago has played before in Malaysia Purple League in year 2014 and 2015. Many players from other countries have also played in that league before. Hence due to that Kenichi Tago thought that he could salvage his badminton career by playing in Malaysia. He wanted to play there. Then as for the Malaysian side it goes like they have not really consider it yet whether to take him or not. Of course Kenichi Tago did have the discussion with them. But as of now the answer is clear cut. Kenichi Tago won't have a chance to ever touch his badminton racket anymore as he won't be allow to play at any other countries. It has been banned by the Nippon badminton association.
     
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    Yes you are right. He cannot play badminton anymore.
     
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    Even if NBA does not grant Tago permission to play in an overseas league, can Tago still go there despite not having the permission from NBA?

    What if Tago does go to Malaysia even without permission? What can NBA (or anyone in Japan) do?

    Can NBA prevent Tago from leaving Japan?
     
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    Why does the NBA have the authority to prevent Tago from playing badminton abroad? Did Tago sell his soul to the NBA or something? I know very little about japanese culture but prohibiting a man from doing what he loves (which also is totally unrelated to the crime) makes no sense to me at all.

    This would be a suitable punishment if Tago was involved with match-fixing or anything related to badminton. But this wasn't the case and the fact that they decide his badminton career outside of Japan feels extremely shady.

    I can't help but wonder if the same verdict would be given if this would've happened after Thomas Cup 2014 when Tago was seen as a hero rather than the shade of what he used to be.
     
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    I truly understand how you feel. I also feel so much for Kenichi Tago. I also feel that the Nippon Badminton Association totally has no control of Kenichi Tago future. But then to be honest with you this is how Japanese culture works. Their way of doing things is totally different from other countries. Everything must be perfect and there should be no flaws. As a person who have the opportunity to stay in Japan for a couple of years I certainly understand why the Japanese do it this way. In Japan discipline comes above everything.





    Yes the NBA stand is Kenichi Tago has misbehaved and has gambled at an illegal place that funded the Yakuza indirectly. Yakuza is an underground organisation and mafia in Japan. To the Japanese side, this is extremely serious and cannot be tolerate. Then the NBA tends to punish Kenichi Tago in such a manner that since you like to gamble and bet illegally it is high time that you be punished harshly so that you will learn your lesson and the rests of the Japanese badminton players do not follow suit. Plus if you cannot play badminton in Japan means you also cannot play badminton elsewhere. This is NBA stand. The NBA wanted to use Kenichi Tago, Kento Momota and Kenta Nishimoto as examples to let the other Japanese badminton players know that they will also receive the same type of punishment if they misbehave like them.






    Yes I agree with you that the punishment is just too harsh but then as I have said in Japanese culture this is considered a serious crime that cannot be forgiven. This is because Kenichi Tago have gamble illegally at illegal casinos that funded the mafia group called Yakuza in Japan. To them this is the reason. Hence the punishment must be harsh too.




    To be honest to you during those few years of staying in Japan, I have been trained to be a well behaved person and cannot make mistakes at all. In Japan everything must be 100% perfect and due to that couple of years staying in Japan I have learn to see things in such a manner that human life can never be prefect if they themselves are not 100% perfect. Hope you can understand that Japanese culture is indeed different from other culture.
     
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    Sometimes I just wish that Kenichi Tago, Kento Momota and Kenta Nishimoto are not born in Japan and are born elsewhere. Then 3 of them need not suffer this kind of fate. Well perhaps life is not that smooth sailing after all. Some people have good lives while some don't. In this world there are so many misbehaving badminton players but nothing ever happen to them.



    But then the poor, polite, good, well behaved Japanese players, things like that have to happen to them. Well sometimes life is not that fair after all.
     

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