KKK & TBH - On The Comeback Trail?

Pemuda, Don't forget there will be a World Championship in INDIA next year.
That's for sure the big one in 2009 & lets see whether this so-called "comeback trail" will be materialised or not;)
 
Pemuda said:
Sorry I very seldom follow badminton these days. You mean KKK/TBH did not win the Johor Open & the NGP!!!?? :eek::eek: Is Rexy still around???

Maybe we should send KKK/TBH to the Kuala Kangsar Open or Batu Road Open next year.
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oh...why u didnt follow badminton much???:(...well...relax...u know what...current mas top md...wr 4...fuzzy...dont even qualify for national grand prix final...u want to send fuzzy play with me in suara muda club in kelantan???:D
 
samuel882 said:
Pemuda, Don't forget there will be a World Championship in INDIA next year.
That's for sure the big one in 2009 & lets see whether this so-called "comeback trail" will be materialised or not;)
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Oh yes!!! I kinda lost track on badminton.

Yes, the WC. I say LCW & KKK/TBH wont win the WC.
 
eaglehelang said:
<sigh> you still dont get what I mean or pretend not to know (as a mod, you should know). You're not Msian, you're not the one who'll be ridiculed as "these stupid fans" or along those lines. Now there's an additional thread that will do so. We are the ones will kena, not you

2) Those of us who post articles will have more headache as there's multiple threads & overlapping. If post in one thread, off topic, post in the other also off topic. There's no general thread to post, end up, someone will open 3rd thread, more headache, or the articles not posted.:p
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Ohhh here comes to sad ballads. What kind of violin do you use?? Ivan Dunov model 140? Andreas Eastman model 200?

But seriously, there is actually no headache or etc as claimed by you. This is just a forum where people discuss/debate/agree/disagree/argue.
 
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imo, there is no need to create so many threads about koo/tan as stated by eaglehelang
why is there just koo/tan will got so many threads? etc: downhill, kkk, tbh and now comeback trail?
what should it be?
oldhand, i guess what are you suppose to do right now..:(:rolleyes:
 
Pemuda said:
I am speaking facts.
Ok take a deep breath and ask yourself how did our shuttlers performed in the big tournaments this year? When I say big tournaments, I mean the Olympics, AE & the Super Series. The Johor Open or the National GP dont count, for your info.
As for KKK/TBH what have they achieved this year??? During the run-up to the AE, they talked the talk; 'We are ready to plunder in Europe' (remember?). Well, what happened to them in the AE??? 1st round or something, right?? During the Olympics, remember the 'Glory' thingy???
Please look at LCW entire track record, he has never won anything major.
Facts are facts, dude.

Your response, sadly is so typical of the Malaysia Bole spirit. When you find the facts difficult to accept, your rant about my nationality. No wonder we consider making the world biggest omellete as something Malaysia should be proud of.
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Pemuda is right that our shuttlers do not perfrom in big stage but I hope they can strengthen their mental abilities.

As for KKK/TBH, they have achieve so much as a young pair and they are only 22/20 years old so there are still lot to learn in terms of mental strength.

LYD will have his weak period too... lets see
 
Pemuda said:
I am speaking facts.
Ok take a deep breath and ask yourself how did our shuttlers performed in the big tournaments this year? When I say big tournaments, I mean the Olympics, AE & the Super Series. The Johor Open or the National GP dont count, for your info.
As for KKK/TBH what have they achieved this year??? During the run-up to the AE, they talked the talk; 'We are ready to plunder in Europe' (remember?). Well, what happened to them in the AE??? 1st round or something, right?? During the Olympics, remember the 'Glory' thingy???
Please look at LCW entire track record, he has never won anything major.
Facts are facts, dude.

Your response, sadly is so typical of the Malaysia Bole spirit. When you find the facts difficult to accept, your rant about my nationality. No wonder we consider making the world biggest omellete as something Malaysia should be proud of.
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Dear Pemuda,
I know your point. But to be honest, if you watch yesterday final, or even OG final between LCW and LD, we not only see our local youngester fighting with guts and determinations for national pride, but it helps to unify all races of Malaysia, be it Melayu, Cina, India and others. All races go all out to support them without thinking of our race difference.
If you compared them with our so called politicians that love to raise racial sentiments, i think all our badminton players deserve our salute and praise...
and not word of bashing or discouragement. Malaysia Boleh spirits does not shows that we are invicible, but it did unify us to be proud of our achievement.
 
In my opinion KKK is by far the most exciting and best MD player to emerge for a long, long time. His problem is more mental. He can rise to great heights and sink to depths after success has gone into his head. He needs to build on his maturity and mental toughness. At their best KKK/TBH can humiliate any MD-you got a glimpse of this at the HK SS and the SS Final. But on another day they will lose to a backup pair-too much arrogance and disrespect for the opposition.
KKK's temperament is both a strength and a weakness. Forcing him to bend to the coach's instructions which he disagrees will neutralize his brilliance. However, a good coach who knows how to harness his strengths and weakness will see KKK become possibly one of the greatest doubles player of all time.
 
taneepak said:
But on another day they will lose to a backup pair-too much arrogance and disrespect for the opposition.
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erm...do u point to koo/tan lost to ong/goh in semis of national gran prix final semis???:confused:...that day...both koo and tan having high fever(uncle sam say) or fever+flu(as reported in press...);)
 
sorry to say so but what's the point to awake at this time?not exciting...
4 months after beijing OG and 4 years ahead for london OG...
i doubt whether they can keep in form till india WC...
i know i sound harsh but when the hopes is on them,they never make it thru..
so maybe we should just keep them in low profile?loxx
BAM should hire a full time psychologist for kkk tbh to ensure they performance stability ^_^
 
danielwong said:
Dear Pemuda,
I know your point. But to be honest, if you watch yesterday final, or even OG final between LCW and LD, we not only see our local youngester fighting with guts and determinations for national pride, but it helps to unify all races of Malaysia, be it Melayu, Cina, India and others. All races go all out to support them without thinking of our race difference.
If you compared them with our so called politicians that love to raise racial sentiments, i think all our badminton players deserve our salute and praise...
and not word of bashing or discouragement. Malaysia Boleh spirits does not shows that we are invicible, but it did unify us to be proud of our achievement.
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Thanks for your comments.
No doubt sports can be a unifying factor but for Malaysia lets look at things a little closer. Sports today in Malaysia is no longer like it used to be say back in the 60s, 70s or 80s. For your info, all our sports bodies and institutions are now politicised. Name me one sport association in Msia where you dont find politicians.

Look at the results today?? What have we produced despite all the money invested in sports?? We are crap in football and we are now struggling against Laos & Cambodia. In athletics, we are nowhere in the SEA region. Badminton?? We have yet to win the Olympic gold or WC while the likes of Denmark, England, Japan have already done so. And the last time we won that Thomas cup was like ages ago. Our so-called world #1, Datuk LCW has never won the Olympic gold, WC or the AE before. In squash, we have ONE Nicoll David but that also we gotta thank her parents who moulded her.

Back to badminton, for all the taxpayers money invested into badminton, the results so far have been very poor indeed. What have we won this year that is considered significant??? Nothing. And personally, I am not going to praise and salute our shuttlers when they win minor tournaments. Win the WC, Olympic gold and AE then the recognition will come.

Look at PG, at 32 he is still up there challenging and if I am not wrong the man won the Denmark & French Opens this year ... at aged 32. Now, tell me how many of our MS can be playing top badminton and win a couple of SS titles at 32?? Our shuttlers are pampered and weak mentally. LCW will be history by the time he reaches 29 or so.
 
jigglypuff said:
sorry to say so but what's the point to awake at this time?not exciting...
4 months after beijing OG and 4 years ahead for london OG...
i doubt whether they can keep in form till india WC...
i know i sound harsh but when the hopes is on them,they never make it thru..
so maybe we should just keep them in low profile?loxx
BAM should hire a full time psychologist for kkk tbh to ensure they performance stability ^_^
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BAM should hire this. BAM should hire that. BAM should provide this and that. And the list goes on and on ....

Yes! Roll out them crutches and drips because our shuttlers need them. In our subsidy mentality, we cannot exist nor compete without them crutches.

PG won the Danish & French Open this year. Hmmm .... I wonder whether the Danish BA hire a full time psychologist, foreign coach/trainer for him or not??? ;)
 
Pemuda said:
BAM should hire this. BAM should hire that. BAM should provide this and that. And the list goes on and on ....

Yes! Roll out them crutches and drips because our shuttlers need them. In our subsidy mentality, we cannot exist nor compete without them crutches.

PG won the Danish & French Open this year. Hmmm .... I wonder whether the Danish BA hire a full time psychologist, foreign coach/trainer for him or not??? ;)
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ya know, kkk/tbh and peter gade case is not the same case..;)
 
Pemuda said:
BAM should hire this. BAM should hire that. BAM should provide this and that. And the list goes on and on ....

Yes! Roll out them crutches and drips because our shuttlers need them. In our subsidy mentality, we cannot exist nor compete without them crutches.

PG won the Danish & French Open this year. Hmmm .... I wonder whether the Danish BA hire a full time psychologist, foreign coach/trainer for him or not??? ;)
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it depends on the players whether do they need it,aren't?
i'm not sure bout PG but pros are around to help the athletes to perform better..(psychologist, psychiatrist etc)
 
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