KKK, what are you doing!

[Jagdpanther]

So, do you mean if some region know it better than another, then such behavior is acceptable?

Guys, we all talked about how to introduce the sport to the entire world (mostly western nations) besides Asia, and now we put this like "oh, it's fine..."

So, if we say LD refuse to wear a hat, or slam his rackets put "a bad image to the sport", then we take the "finger" incident as no harm? Because it's in Asia?

I simply replied was what you said below. This single part only. My opinion regarding the issue is the same with you...
How can you be pretty sure, after all?

I am pretty sure even a 3 years old who has well taught knows "it's wrong".

 

[The Boxer]

Sigh, that was not the main point, once again you mis-interpret. The same as the other incidents, dont blow it out of porportion. LD fans can say that during those incidents...so....

And remember, you started the "LD taking hats off" thing 1st, and made long, long, paragraphs abt that and the racket throwing incident, etc . I was just explaining in reply(since you ask ppl to tell you why, why), and then you misinterpret some more.......some more rant, rant.

There're other incidents like stamping of shuttle, throwing temper, kicking umpire's podium(even the diciplined Korean MD did that bf), etc,etc, you all dont make a big fuss, just a few comments.... this one you want to make big fuss.
(Unless of course Yonex wants to sue KKK for insulting their rackets)

And yet again, I didnt say it's ok or right make that gesture (it's you interpret it so). Just no need make super big fuss(the others already said or implied that). This is the 3rd thread talking abt it.

I think you need to put on the brakes as I can see things are maybe getting a little heated.

The way I see it, it was wrong of KKK to initiate that middle finger. And as a badminton player representing the nation, KKK should have conducted himself a little better on court.

As a Malaysian, I was disappointed with KKK.

 

[samuel882]

Sigh, that was not the main point, once again you mis-interpret. The same as the other incidents, dont blow it out of porportion. LD fans can say that during those incidents...so....

And remember, you started the "LD taking hats off" thing 1st, and made long, long, paragraphs abt that and the racket throwing incident, etc . I was just explaining in reply(since you ask ppl to tell you why, why), and then you misinterpret some more.......some more rant, rant.

There're other incidents like stamping of shuttle, throwing temper, kicking umpire's podium(even the diciplined Korean MD did that bf), etc,etc, you all dont make a big fuss, just a few comments.... this one you want to make big fuss.
(Unless of course Yonex wants to sue KKK for insulting their rackets)

And yet again, I didnt say it's ok or right make that gesture (it's you interpret it so). Just no need make super big fuss(the others already said or implied that). This is the 3rd thread talking abt it.

Gosh ! When did that incident happened?
Did the umpire eventually fell off frm his chair?

 

[LazyBuddy]

I simply replied was what you said below. This single part only. My opinion regarding the issue is the same with you...
How can you be pretty sure, after all?

Seriously, does that really make a difference whether I used "3 years old", or "5 years old" or "10 years old" or even say "40 years old"? I was trying to say, "it's a common sense". Also, regardless what's the age factor, Koo clearly knows what he's doing.

Ok, my apology for using "3 years old". I will "upgrade" it to "15 years old" now. Does that take any responsibility off Koo's shoulder now? Or, people can stop picking my "common sense" rather than focus on this incident?

 

[LazyBuddy]

Sigh, that was not the main point, once again you mis-interpret.

Maybe I am over sensitive?

However, once I read the posts such as "oh, that sign is not well known in Asia", or "even 40 years old ppl do not know that sign", I immediately feel like someone is trying to make an excuse for the incident.

Well, I hope Koo can make a public apology, save the image for himself and the sport.

 

[Jagdpanther]

Maybe I am over sensitive?

However, once I read the posts such as "oh, that sign is not well known in Asia", or "even 40 years old ppl do not know that sign", I immediately feel like someone is trying to make an excuse for the incident.

Well, I hope Koo can make a public apology, save the image for himself and the sport.

However, too, mister...
When I read some posts repeatedly mentioning LD taking off the hat incident again and again and again, dunno why, I feel like someone is trying to say, "Oh, compared to Koo's blatant action, what LD did was somewhat tolerable."

Well, maybe I'm over sensitive as well. Don't mind.

 

[krisss]

Gosh ! When did that incident happened?
Did the umpire eventually fell off frm his chair?

I think they are referring to the 2008 all england mens doubles finals.

Where one of the koreans kicked the umpires chair and recieved a yellow card. Although I'm not sure.

 

[LazyBuddy]

However, too, mister...
When I read some posts repeatedly mentioning LD taking off the hat incident again and again and again, dunno why, I feel like someone is trying to say, "Oh, compared to Koo's blatant action, what LD did was somewhat tolerable."

Well, maybe I'm over sensitive as well. Don't mind.

Actually, that's exactly what I was trying to say.

To my moral standard, I do believe taking a hat off in frustration, is much better than showing "the finger" in front live TV.

 

[Jonc108]

Actually, that's exactly what I was trying to say.

To my moral standard, I do believe taking a hat off in frustration, is much better than showing "the finger" in front live TV.

... you know what, Buddy, there are many people here kept seeing things in double or even multiple and selective standard, and like to blow up (LD's fault) or play down (KKK's fault) with the so-called reasons made up according to their favourite, and still like to play God... this is what we call hypocritical... anyway, this is also human nature...

 

[ye333]

LD slightly insulted a country/culture, while KKK severely insulted his racket. Which accident is more serious?

So, tell me why LD got bashed for 15 pages, when he put away the hat in MO? He was mad, but did not put his anger to anyone in that incident. Sure, back then, fans say "that will piss off the sponsorship, therefore, bring bad image to badminton".

So, tell me this sign will not let any sponsorship or fans (ok, say western only) think twice?

 

[Zabee]

countryof cos........1 should respect the culture, religion & customs , human rigths

 

[cooler]

LD slightly insulted a country/culture, while KKK severely insulted his racket. Which accident is more serious?

countryof cos........1 should respect the culture, religion & customs , human rigths

how about his own human rights?
how does a hat or not wearin it is related to religion?
custom is a joke, anybody can invent a custom. gential mutalition is a custom in some countries, r u abiding that custom too?

Is boleh a custom or a religion? Is the biggest flag pole or biggest pencil your religious monument? How come pemuda isn't arrested for bashing such deep rooted religion/custom???

 

[ye333]

I am just stating the facts. You have the right to think that there is no need to respect certain countries/cultures/customs, but you do not have the right to require those people to not feel insulted. Right?

Btw, do you think KKK's racket should be respected?

how about his own human rights?
how does a hat or not wearin it is related to religion?
custom is a joke, anybody can invent a custom. gential mutalition is a custom in some countries, r u abiding that custom too?

Is boleh a custom or a religion? Is the biggest flag pole or biggest pencil your religious monument? How come pemuda isn't arrested for bashing such deep rooted religion/custom???

 

[koo_fan]

LD slightly insulted a country/culture, while KKK severely insulted his racket. Which accident is more serious?

Hi ye333. I think both did not overtook each other. insulting. KKK shouldn't do that. Lin Dan too. kkk- a pro player did that in public and there's kids watching. Whatever the reason, that's an insult, to those who watching. Lin dan - need not to say, he should not refused to wear that hat, no matter how bad he felt at that time. He failed to show respect, to the Malaysians audience. I din put a yardstick to measure which is bad than the other.
There's no losing to say sorry, though. i'll be proud if kkk have the gut to do so.

 

[Jagdpanther]

how about his own human rights?
how does a hat or not wearin it is related to religion?
custom is a joke, anybody can invent a custom. gential mutalition is a custom in some countries, r u abiding that custom too?

To you, it's a joke, maybe.
To Malaysians, it's not.

 

[LazyBuddy]

LD slightly insulted a country/culture, while KKK severely insulted his racket. Which accident is more serious?

Insult his racket? Do you really think the impact is for just a racket? Great excuse.

If say someone takes off his pants in the public, and say, "hey, I just feel hot", without thinking about the public image, do you think the cop should not say anything? Do you think an excuse of "I am only dealing with my own pants" can get the person in no trouble?

Sure, you can do whatever do your rackets or pants, but do it at home. However, please do NOT do it in the public. You need to think what's the general public's standard is, and not just yourself.

 

[cooler]

To you, it's a joke, maybe.
To Malaysians, it's not.

r u speaking for all malaysians or just a proxy for them?

 

[cooler]

LD slightly insulted a country/culture, while KKK severely insulted his racket. Which accident is more serious?

get serious man, kkk insulted the whole international viewing audience. Why else gillian clarke apologized to the audience even tho she didn't do it?

 

[zqloy]

LD slightly insulted a country/culture, while KKK severely insulted his racket. Which accident is more serious?

Hahaha this is a good one. But i still think KKK is cursing himself rather than the racket

 

[LazyBuddy]

get serious man, kkk insulted the whole international viewing audience. Why else gillian clarke apologized to the audience even tho she didn't do it?

Like I said, next time Janet Jackson (or someone else) takes off clothes or pants during Live, should not get punishment. They simply do it with their own clothes, according our "ye333".

I just hope ye333 does not really try to attempt such, and try to get away from the law enforcement, though.