Korean Tc Team Done Their Tricks.....

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  1. ricksakti

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    strategy is a strategy....strategy to win is a strategy...
     
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    strategy is to "win at all costs" :cool:
     
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    seriously,i think playing ina is harder than china bc remember, they are now playing in ina home soil,in front of ina die-hard, strong, supportive fans :) mas shd meet ina as late as possible
     
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    Agree, and I think if MAS manage to go to Semi, they will be fully support by INA fun......to play again China.
     
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    smart? what smart? everyone can cheat but most people choose not to!
     
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    ah, i don't think you can term this cheating, it's merely tactics.
    not necessarily the most sporting tactics, but tactics nonetheless.
     
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    Oops, they DID it again...!!!
     
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    Nope they didnt, they came up with weird line up again like the morning against England.

    LOL, kah kah. Msia wont do that. Yap KH will be fired if they do.

    Rexy not good bomoh, Korea already pulled this stunt during qualifiers in Feb.
    :D

    That's why Msia coaches, decided not to risk it & chose to play to top the group B & face China head on Semis


    Interesting, your opinion also shared by LCW. LCW said to press that he prefer to play China than Indonesia on home ground. Play Indonesia must face all the fanatical fans, he dont like. He prefer play China, then hope Indonesia fans cheer for Msia, he he.

    Indonesia almost lost to Thailand on home ground yesterday. Can also be considered home ground pressure instead of home ground advantage.
     
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    This is a very good idea, tho. so dat nobody can do what korean did. but secrecy is almost impossible these days, right? haha.

    Anyway, i think what korean did is better. sending random scratched pair rather than main pairs and players pretending to lose. but i wonder what will happen if one of the players injured during this 'fun' strategy :rolleyes:
    padan muka (suit them well)
     
  10. mcchooi

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    koreans are good at playing the draw to their advantage.

    by coming 3rd, they play denmark (QF), indonesia (SF) and will avoid china or malaysia until the final

    if they come in 2nd, they'll play indonesia in (QF)

    if they top the group, they'll play china in the (SF)...
     
  11. LazyBuddy

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    After all years years of "team CHN trial", we now see KOR on the stance. Overall, that proves that all the coaches / staff / players are human, and they do whatever to protect their own interests - get better final results and keep their jobs.

    Whatever they think and believe might not always agree with our fans. Some achievment are 100% pure hard work, some are more or less involved with "strategies". Whether we as fans like it or not, it's not fair for us to judge them, unless we are in their position.

    Sit back and relax, at least we know that LYB is not the only one will use his head to create "shortcut". :D
     
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    Report on Match from www.badmintonengland.co.uk, not even a mention of the team changes from Korea! haha, good propaganda for the UK public!

    Monday

    England roared back from their opening 5-0 defeat by Malaysia to defeat Korea 4-1 on Day Two of the Thomas Cup men's world team championships in Jakarta.

    And that win means England will face Nigeria in the first knockout round.

    Team manager Peter Jeffrey said: "It was a great result for England to beat Korea. Our team performed well and secured second place in our group.

    "We are now looking forward to the knockout stages and tomorrow's match against Nigeria."

    If, as anticipated, England progress against the Nigerians, they can expect to meet former champions and hosts Indonesia in the quarter-finals.

    England made one change today from the team that went down to Malaysia. Nathan Rice came in to play third singles instead of Ben Beckman and the Bucks player claimed one of England's wins.

    The only rubber England didn't win saw Rob Adcock and Robin Middleton go down 21-19 21-15 to Lee Yong Dae and Shon Seung Mo.

    England 4 Korea 1

    Singles: Andrew Smith bt Hong Ji Hoon 21-19 18-21 21-16, Rajiv Oueph bt Lee Jae Jin 21-11 21-19, Nathan Rice bt Hwang Ji Man 21-11 21-18.
    Doubles: Chris Langridge & Chris Adcock bt Park Sung Hwan & Lee Hyun Il 21-11 21-19, Robert Adcock & Robin Middleton lost to Lee Yong Dae & Shon Seung Mo 21-19 21-15.
     
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    England "roared back" :eek:

    What a word to use.....:eek:
     
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    If i was the coach of Korea i would do the same thing
    think about it
    if they came out as group B # 3 they face canada (which they are gonna demolish no offense)
    and if they are vsin japan or denmark they have a huge chance of making it into semis
    and then still they dont have to verse the insane team of China...
    so the chances of at least runners up is very high with the strategy they are usin
    this is called victory at all costs
    hahaha
     
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    Just another reason to root for the Danish Uncles in QF :)
     
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    This is called manipulation of the draw. I think it is about time for BWF to change the rules and remove the cross-over pre-quarterfinals. Makes no sense to have group matches where no one is eliminated ......

    I hope Indonesia can stop Korea's progress, let 'em know there is no shortcut to success. None of INA's Thomas Cup titles came from manipulation, when they tried it in 1992, they didn't win the title.
     
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    If they were to "win the cup at all cost", how is this strategy to their advantage?They now have to play Denmark, Indonesia AND China/Malaysia to win the cup, Malaysia however, will only need to play China and one of the other. Dumb strategy?

    Wait till they lose to Denmark, then they would regret taking that path, at least losing to China means making the semis.
    Gade will stun Hyun Il. I have faith in my long time idol.
     
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    They want to avoid Indonesia & China. To do that, must lose to both England & Msia. Msia just wanted to avoid meeting Indonesia early. China is defending champ, not easy for any team. Since now Denmark won against japan, they have chosen to play Korea in QF.

    But, if not Denmark, hopefully Indonesia will stop them at Semi F. PG still not fully recover from his illness, lost match today against Sato.
     
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    basically this maximises their chances of making it to the finals.
    everyone appears to be trying to avoid meeting CHN as long as possible.
    but yeah, beating both DEN and INA is not guaranteed.
     
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    Absolutely. What a bad way to win. I really hope korean team will be crushed :mad: :mad:
    Moreover their strategy will not help them on double.

    Putting LHI & PSH in double could a good training for them (not too hard physically for them) but Ji Man Hwang for third MS (twice in addition)...
    I'll be rofl if they lost a tie 3-2 because of the MD2 :-/
     

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