LCW vs Lin Dan... who will be better in this tournament?

[chris-ccc]

It's great that our admin/moderators are watching out for trolls at BadmintonCentral

i suspect thread starter is just another troll. create, hit and run. this is my opinion and i didnt see his/her opinion.

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It's great that our admin/moderators are watching out for trolls at BC.

Hope that our regular BCers won't get to fight/bash each other over the troll's intention.
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[pjswift]

Actually I thought that LCW should have apologized, regardless of whether it was skill or not. Sportsmanship should be shown as even someone said that it has a chance to be missed, so the little luck that he created - he should have apologized for that!

There's no need to apologise when the netcord's not due to luck. If LCW trains for it and ups a 5% shot to a 50% winner with confidence, he earns the right to not make a fuss over it.
Like unreturnable tumbling net shots, this is high level skill and when delivered effectively, it indicates confidence and good form.
Nothing to do with sportsmanship.

 

[lcleing]

this is going either way.
me or you dont really understand what few claiming pro players are trained to hit the "white tape" and tumbling over from baseline. stick in the brain, it is baseline. i am not talking counter drop whereas your racket is few inches from net.
me or "few" dont really know how to watch badminton or understand badminton games. dont where did LCW hit that shot or dont know what is baseline means.
me or "few" dont know how to play badminton.
me or you dont know how to play good badminton.

or i am just dont know how to say in here.....

Hang on a minute, you have me confused. Are we watching the same match in JO 2010? I took a deliberate to watch the game again and find what you said a bit puzzling.

The reason why this is confusing is, LCW had not hit a netcord all the way from baseline throughout the Japan Open 2010.

If you take away the tumbling netshots in the match, there were only 4 netcords.

The first one was done by LD from the baseline. LD did a fast drop/half smash from the rear court in the 1st set when the score was LD 6-LCW 4(scoring his 7th point)

The second netcord came from LCW taking the shuttle from midcourt(the stand you take when serving in single) in the 2nd set. This happened when the score was LD 19-LCW 14 (scoring his 15th point).

The third net cord came in the beginning of third set. Where LCW came in for a net kill and took the shuttle at front court(service line), which is just a few inches before the net. LD 0 -LCW 0 (LCW scoring his first point).

The fourth netcord came before the interval of third set. where LCW came in for net/push, took the shuttle at front court(service line), few inches before the net.
LD 8-LCW 10 (LCW scoring his 11st point).

I have seen alot of netcords around midcourt area(mainly from double in the professional level and ocassionally from singles), so personally I don't consider it as luck. happened in social level too, if you took the shuttle fast enough.As you said, after all the racket is just a few inches from the net. However, that's only my opinion. I never proclaim myself to be a professional player and advanced video audience like youself.

Just to confirm again, are you saying that LCW is lucky because he got 3 netcords from mid front court? If you still think is luck, fine by me.

P/S: even LD got the netcord from baseline, I would say is a result of hardwork and a bit of luck . Just my opinion.

 

[kuwichert]

There might be another topic which comes into the game: what about the linesmen? I don't wanna start a new discussion about the bad calls we all know about - just wanna know now, how is the set up at the Asian games? Will they have international and well trained line judges (so some Indians will judge a MAS-CN match), or will they have the local volunteers? Hope for the sake of baddy they don't let the patriots judge!

 

[abedeng]

Another thread of LD vs LCW, who will be on top? It might end up like in the previous World Championships, with Chen Jin taking it home .......

 

[pralinescream]

...not another datuk vs super dan thread?! duncha ppl ver learn?
it's already very clear dat datuk can only win if super dan allows him.
right before a major tournament, for sure datuk will beat super dan. remember 2008 when datuk fans went into raptures after super dan allowed datuk to win in de thomas cup? and right after, datuk got a badminton lesson from super dan in de og final.

now miss bun is trying out injury tricks to lower de public pressure on datuk to win, so he will not buckle under pressure again.
nice try and finally got improvement in thinking, but again, super dan wants de ag gold to complete his grand slam collection.
so datuk...only in ur dreams!

 

[pBmMalaysia]

...not another datuk vs super dan thread?! duncha ppl ver learn?
it's already very clear dat datuk can only win if super dan allows him.
right before a major tournament, for sure datuk will beat super dan. remember 2008 when datuk fans went into raptures after super dan allowed datuk to win in de thomas cup? and right after, datuk got a badminton lesson from super dan in de og final.

now miss bun is trying out injury tricks to lower de public pressure on datuk to win, so he will not buckle under pressure again.
nice try and finally got improvement in thinking, but again, super dan wants de ag gold to complete his grand slam collection.
so datuk...only in ur dreams!

when i see your name appear in the thread after i pressed setting i knew what you have for lcw lol

no doubt lin dan is still hot favorite in asian games but you don't have to sound so cheap for lcw

do you think your opinion is going to change the way lcw's fan is going to support him?

it will still be the same so better you keep your negative and rude comment by yourself

it just serve no purpose

unless you like to chase the readers away from bc

 

[eRa@에라]

...
unless you like to chase the readers away from bc

*nod*nod*

Much better:- "unless you like to be chased away from bc..."

 

[pBmMalaysia]

*nod*nod*

Much better:- "unless you like to be chased away from bc..."

yes, this one also can

it all depend on which window i am looking from,

from the readers' or the mod's

 

[limsy]

There might be another topic which comes into the game: what about the linesmen? I don't wanna start a new discussion about the bad calls we all know about - just wanna know now, how is the set up at the Asian games? Will they have international and well trained line judges (so some Indians will judge a MAS-CN match), or will they have the local volunteers? Hope for the sake of baddy they don't let the patriots judge!

lol
i didnt saw park sh complain on a 10cm out(but linejudge called in) incident(againts lindan in cmo 2010)
so
does the player really cares?

 

[eRa@에라]

lol
i didnt saw park sh complain on a 10cm out(but linejudge called in) incident(againts lindan in cmo 2010)
so
does the player really cares?

I guess when it gets on their nerves (i.e.: way too many bad calls one can ignore-like what happen to LCW vs BCL), they will care... I hope no such thing happens in AG2010... if it does, it left me no more space for respect to the host...

 

[Tekkai]

i believe so, bc LD is more stable mentally and his home crowd will fire him up. its just a neutral insight.

actually if you noticed LD hasn't won AG gold yet so he will be very determined to win it..Just like the olympics08. So he will be all out to win it just like in the olympics..in JO10, its alright if he lost to LCW cause it doesn't really matter to him since his dream is accomplished already and he has won alot of tournaments So my guess is LCW will have no chance..

 

[pralinescream]

when i see your name appear in the thread after i pressed setting i knew what you have for lcw lol

no doubt lin dan is still hot favorite in asian games but you don't have to sound so cheap for lcw

do you think your opinion is going to change the way lcw's fan is going to support him?

it will still be the same so better you keep your negative and rude comment by yourself

it just serve no purpose

unless you like to chase the readers away from bc

no disrespect to datuk but i always feel pity for him. if he is born 10 years earlier or 10 years later, he will be remembered as one of badminton's best players of his era.
it is such a tragedy dat datuk is completely overshadowed by super dan, who is definitely de greatest player of all time.
no matter wat, datuk has won quite a few stash of $$$ and shld be contented. heard he even opened up business selling mobile fones.

 

[extremenanopowe]

The game is dynamic. Don't under estimate the rest. I expect some upsets.

 

[pBmMalaysia]

no disrespect to datuk but i always feel pity for him. if he is born 10 years earlier or 10 years later, he will be remembered as one of badminton's best players of his era.
it is such a tragedy dat datuk is completely overshadowed by super dan, who is definitely de greatest player of all time.
no matter wat, datuk has won quite a few stash of $$$ and shld be contented. heard he even opened up business selling mobile fones.

lcw completely overshadowed by lin dan?

you must be out of your mind lol

maybe you should look up or google the word, 'overshadowed'.

if you claim chen jin or bao is overshadowed by lin dan or lcw

i shall agree with you plus 10 satay on me.

as for your belief lin dan is the greatest player of all time,

you are entitled to one and its different from mine,

I believe all top 10 players in the world ranking are the best players of our era.

 

[il megafono]

when i see your name appear in the thread after i pressed setting i knew what you have for lcw lol

no doubt lin dan is still hot favorite in asian games but you don't have to sound so cheap for lcw

do you think your opinion is going to change the way lcw's fan is going to support him?

it will still be the same so better you keep your negative and rude comment by yourself

it just serve no purpose

unless you like to chase the readers away from bc

what are you talking about negative and rude comment? who are you telling other member to not

express his or her opinion? what makes you think other readers will be chased away after reading that?

what makes you think his opinion will change the way lcw's fan is going to support him? i think

it's members like you who like to chase the readers and posters like him away from bc

 

[il megafono]

Mate I couldn't care less before, until I see these repeated bs remarks made by certain members that post just to provoke an angry response. I don't deny being a LD fan or a China fan overall, but I am sick of seeing non-stop jealous attacks on team china and LD especially cos he is the best.
Especially nitpicking on little things and magnifying little incidents etc into huge ones makes it all laughable ... Just like cases when lcw loses it's "Lyb said some nasty words and distracted poor lcw" that's why he lost. "lcw has beter stamina, shots bla bla but he somehow still lost".
come on and think about it carefully, old pjswift has been harping her old nonsense about china for longer than I have joined this forum... With her laughable theories about china team being Chickens and rote learning only able to beat lcw all the way to Ld struggles against lesser players like psh cos he hasn't got a plan lol?
Others may comment natively on fans like Ajaib for being Indonesian but supporting china etc... Then why not this Pjswift? She is sg Chinese but absolutely loathed the Chinese team, supporting any random on top of her lungs to beat the Chinese team.
Quite frankly every post of hers is the same old rubbish with nothing but insults to particularly LD.
Joining her bandwagon is aliases like majyun who likes to take stabs along with compatriots and a particularly vocal cheerleader.

Quite frankly what do we do? Sit here and be ridiculed at by these ridiculous nonsense or post back with some nonsense as well but at least with credibility?

i've been surfing around this forum for a couple or so months and i couldn't agree more with you on the types of comment

i've seen, especially by those non-china supporters.

and who are the compariots and who is that particular vocal cheerleader?

 

[eRa@에라]

Wow!

The above notes remind me of history from year ago... curious of how pBmMalaysia will react ... btw newcomer, perhaps an introduction first... @ the introduction section

 

[pBmMalaysia]

what are you talking about negative and rude comment? who are you telling other member to not

express his or her opinion? what makes you think other readers will be chased away after reading that?

what makes you think his opinion will change the way lcw's fan is going to support him? i think

it's members like you who like to chase the readers and posters like him away from bc

welcome new member!

an example of negative and rude comment is this post of yours and

i am afraid you have missed the rules and regulations of bc totally.

kindly find them and read.

you registered this morning after months of reading in bc, that's good

but i hope your mission in bc is not ONLY to question members like

chriss-cc, yoppy, visor and most particularly, me.

please take note and enjoy!

 

[Yoppy]

il megafono has the potential to be ctjcad number 2
Or maybe its him undercover