LD - LCW: a battle at last?

nltung said:
Its so boring watching live badminton and knowing who gonna be the champion (in men single)
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Don't judge badminton for 1 or 2 games.
Perhaps you can review all the matches and say something later.
well, man u vs fulham last night is more predictable.Still, enjoyable.

And sometimes, Badminton can give you heart attack.Don't blame me when it happen to you.:D
 
nltung said:
I think we can't compare Lin Dan vs. LCW with Nadal vs. Federer. Despite the fact that Federer is much more accomplish than Nadal but his heads up records against Nadal ist negative (lost more than 2/3 of the matches). So I never consider Nadal as an inferior player to Federer, even 2,3 years ago.

On the other hand , Lin Dan is so dominated in Badminton that he doesnt have any negative heads up record against anyone, in fact he is in a class of his own, even in comparision with LCW.

Its so boring watching live badminton and knowing who gonna be the champion (in men single)
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The 3 matches he lost to chen jin, every one of them he let him win...
 
Of course, Lin Dan did lost, he is just a human but if he is in his top form, he is really a level above any other players. In my opinion Lin Dan is much more dominant in Badminton than Federer in Tennis in the last 4 years, in Tennis there has always been a Nadal chasing Federer (and eventually superseded) but in Badminton I don't see anyone that comes close to that of Nadal in Tennis.

I still enjoy watching badminton very much, in term of the techniques and quality of the matches but not the result if there is Lin Dan playing :)
 
nltung said:
Of course, Lin Dan did lost, he is just a human but if he is in his top form, he is really a level above any other players. In my opinion Lin Dan is much more dominant in Badminton than Federer in Tennis in the last 4 years, in Tennis there has always been a Nadal chasing Federer (and eventually superseded) but in Badminton I don't see anyone that comes close to that of Nadal in Tennis.

I still enjoy watching badminton very much, in term of the techniques and quality of the matches but not the result if there is Lin Dan playing :)
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I think you are right but your rightness is coming from other side :)
federer is really great in tennis BUT there are few few big bosses last years. Before Nadal may be it was no anyone who could play in tennis level as Sampras, Agassi and Becker. So greatness by Federer is smth like a gladiator in empty field.. not so exciting right? ;)

LD is playing among giants where everyone could play extremely well. And still he is the best. If to make parallels to tennis I should compare him to Pete Sampras may be, but not to Federer, Nadal and so on
 
limsy said:
oh...i SEE...beside the 2 win in SUDIRMAN CUP AND THOMAS CUP(since cooler say is nothing........oh why someone still say ld beat th in ag twice is something:eek:)....lcw only beat ld in japan...hehe...doesnt matter if he never beat ld outside malaysia....this already not a stat anymore....;)
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LCW beat LD in Scotland (Sudirman Cup),Indonesia (Thomas Cup) and in Japan (JO07) and you say he 'never beat LD outside Malaysia'? How dare you imply that these bigger countries of Indonesia,Japan and Scotland are part of Malaysia? Do you study Geography in Malaysia? Don't ever say LCW never beat LD outside Malaysia unless you want people to think you are stupid or ignorant.
 
pjswift said:
LCW beat LD in Scotland (Sudirman Cup),Indonesia (Thomas Cup) and in Japan (JO07) and you say he 'never beat LD outside Malaysia'? How dare you imply that these bigger countries of Indonesia,Japan and Scotland are part of Malaysia? Do you study Geography in Malaysia? Don't ever say LCW never beat LD outside Malaysia unless you want people to think you are stupid or ignorant.
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wah???:eek:...u shooting at me????do u read the post i quote???:eek:
 
pjswift said:
LCW beat LD in Scotland (Sudirman Cup),Indonesia (Thomas Cup) and in Japan (JO07) and you say he 'never beat LD outside Malaysia'? How dare you imply that these bigger countries of Indonesia,Japan and Scotland are part of Malaysia? Do you study Geography in Malaysia? Don't ever say LCW never beat LD outside Malaysia unless you want people to think you are stupid or ignorant.
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limsy said:
wah???:eek:...u shooting at me????do u read the post i quote???:eek:
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AS DASSAD IS FROM ISREAL....THEN I THINK U IS SHOOTING AND SHOUTING ON ME....DONT EVER COMMENT THE POST TAT U DUNNO WHAT HAPPEN AT THE BEGINNING OF IT....READ FROM THE 1ST POST OF THIS THREAD....BEFORE U COMMENT ON ME....
 
limsy, my apologies. I read your post as I understand it.
ok, whoever make a statement like that reveals either ignorance or poor fact processing.
 
mates you are too nervous. may be its me who first time said about Malaysia. But what is a problem - just correct me, as seems I just was wrong. Results I SAW were only 3 losses with 2 of them in Malaysia so probably the results are wrong as well.
No shooting no war no negative. Please be friendly :)
 
Lol.

cant help not to laugh when i read the last few posts..

let's be civil people. Keep your cool.
 
cooler said:
it's lonely at the top...
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that is now very true. Since beijing 08. LD must now believe he is God. He level of play and self-assurance seems to have gone up a level since then. He has won this AE without breaking a sweat and it was just so obvious to see he was a class above everyone else in this tournie.

e.g. in the QF's, it was incredibly painful to watch him play Persson, it was like seeing a man toy and tease wth a child. the gulf in class was that obvious.

and the final v LCW. Well, the vast majority of LD's points where LD UE's. You could see that LD was playing at least a level or so below his best for most of set 1 (slightly underestimating LCW as a result). But in the last stages of set 1 he just started to focus and that's how he took it.

set 2 - LCW did well to hang in there for the first half, but then LD went up to (almost) his highest gear and raced away. I honestly doubt LD was playing at his top level. LD was in complete control of the match throughout.

LD is peerless and already an all-time great.
 
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badders2006 said:
that is now very true. Since beijing 08. LD must now believe he is God. He level of play and self-assurance seems to have gone up a level since then. He has won this AE without breaking a sweat and it was just so obvious to see he was a class above everyone else in this tournie.

e.g. in the QF's, it was incredibly painful to watch him play Persson, it was like seeing a man toy and tease wth a child. the gulf in class was that obvious.

and the final v LCW. Well, the vast majority of LD's points where LD UE's. You could see that LD was playing at least a level or so below his best for most of set 1 (slightly underestimating LCW as a result). But in the last stages of set 1 he just started to focus and that's how he took it.

set 2 - LCW did well to hang in there for the first half, but then LD went up to (almost) his highest gear and raced away. I honestly doubt LD was playing at his top level. LD was in complete control of the match throughout.

LD is peerless and already an all-time great.
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LD has enough talent reserve to just win by pulling out talents on a 'as needed basis'. I think he just giving the AE audience a match to watch that is not one sided as in the OG, which the latter event is an all business affair, no Mr Nice Guy affair.
 
cooler said:
I think he just giving the AE audience a match to watch that is not one sided as in the OG, which the latter event is an all business affair, no Mr Nice Guy affair.
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Well, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the reason.

And I agree, LD has always been the "do just enough to win" kind of player.

I think LD just wanted to cruise through that final and win with minimum effort, trying to show everyone how he can comfortably beat LCW playing at far below his best. As it turned out, in order to win the match comfortably, he had to play slightly better than his Set 1 standard. But that higher standard still was not his best.
 
badders2006 said:
e.g. in the QF's, it was incredibly painful to watch him play Persson, it was like seeing a man toy and tease wth a child. the gulf in class was that obvious.
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Yes, that was painful to watch !!! I was a big fan of Peter Gade, so I generally support danish or european player (Mainly because I dont like the dominance of asian player in badminton, even though I'm myself an asian).

I didnt believe my eyes, that I was watching a world number 6 badminton player playing ! I dont think that Persson is that bad, but in fact Lin Dan is too strong and Persson lost all his confidence.

After that match I felt really upset and I already knew that LCW has no chance against Lin Dan in the Final.

Badminton is very interesting to watch if the 2 players are on the same class, whatever class it is. Now with Lin Dan being a class above others, it is boring watching him playing against others, or to be exact you will be feeling very painful for those others.
 
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