Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

Of course, now that I think about it, the cramping could have been starting earlier in the match, hence why LCW kept watching those birds fall inside the line..

And so we're all clear, I am a big fan of both players, and their styles. Which is saying something, as usually I don't enjoy watching singles play, but I do like watching those two!
 
Actually, this WC was a weird one. Both LD and LCW played badly. There were nice exchanges andd excellent shots in their matches, but a great number of stupid mistakes and unforced errors, much more then normally. Since the Olympics, both players have been out of the circuit, LCW less so but he has clearly been less training, as his results showed.
The only strange thing is the performance of CL. Perhaps a sign of his youth.
 
senior888 said:
The fact is LCW had cramps and its impossible to play as we all know how
painful that is. He is 30 years old and was punctured by DPY the day before,
so fitness gone and 3 setter final vs LD - 1+ 1 always = 2.
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If Nadal and any other top tennis players said this comment, they must laugh to death... why a top player in this sport could have his fitness gone just by one single match??? This badminton sport must be a laughing stock....

Personally, I do hope LCW could win at least one WC. He deserves if if from badminton technique and devotion. Yet once again, he just keep himself away from the trophy by his mental and badminton intelligence.

Ask any pro-tennis player, as a top professional player, you must be prepared to play a whole week of toughest matches under the worst environment (like home court pressure or away court disadvantages). This is a basic for being a pro..

give me a reason why badminton player is assumed to be like a greenhouse child, not able to take on the storm, heat and other severe weather like players of all other sports??
 
renbo said:
Actually, this WC was a weird one. Both LD and LCW played badly. There were nice exchanges andd excellent shots in their matches, but a great number of stupid mistakes and unforced errors, much more then normally. Since the Olympics, both players have been out of the circuit, LCW less so but he has clearly been less training, as his results showed.
The only strange thing is the performance of CL. Perhaps a sign of his youth.
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As mentioned by others, it's a weird match because LD has changed his usual attacking style to a more conservative and patient style to match his progressing years, but he's still able to up the pace when he needs to get the job done. Boring to watch, yes, but a necessary adjustment for him to last till Rio 2016.
 
In the papers yesterday, LCW will be entering politics after retirement - so no problem for the great
man in future - hopefully he joined the right party and become the Minister of Sports.
 
Being a sporting personality is not a good grounding for politics where people are out to scrutinise every word you utter.

Can't be many examples of sports persons turned established politicians - Lord Coe is one example.
 
Jonc108 said:
If Nadal and any other top tennis players said this comment, they must laugh to death... why a top player in this sport could have his fitness gone just by one single match??? This badminton sport must be a laughing stock....

Personally, I do hope LCW could win at least one WC. He deserves if if from badminton technique and devotion. Yet once again, he just keep himself away from the trophy by his mental and badminton intelligence.

Ask any pro-tennis player, as a top professional player, you must be prepared to play a whole week of toughest matches under the worst environment (like home court pressure or away court disadvantages). This is a basic for being a pro..

give me a reason why badminton player is assumed to be like a greenhouse child, not able to take on the storm, heat and other severe weather like players of all other sports??
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Marc Zwiebler suffered the similiar scenario against DPY in Lining SO 2013 too. BTW AC is not switched off. :p

Anyway, such scenario do happens in any sports. May the stronger player wins.
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[TD="align: right"] Marc Zwiebler
[/TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-
[/TD]
[TD]
[CHN]
Pengyu Du [1]
[/TD]
[TD]21-18 12-21 21-19
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[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1:10
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[TD]7.
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[TD]Followed by
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[VIE]

[TD="align: right"] Tien Minh Nguyen [6]
[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]-
[/TD]
[TD]
[GER]
Marc Zwiebler
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[TD]23-21 11-8 Retired
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[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0:31
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BBEdrummerAK said:
I really doubt there was some conspiracy to make sure these two were paired up in the finals. I mean, LD got in on a wild card, probably due to the fact that he was the defending champ. And the way he played certainly showed that he deserved to be there, despite not playing in hardly any tournaments this past year.
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1. The conspiracy is there. It's just you who can't see it.
2. If that's the case, surely after this whoever has the world title should be given wildcard just to be fair. Men's Double Olympic Gold Medalist on 2008 should be given a chance also IMO. Why MK/HS don't deserve the same thing? Why aren't they even listed in the draw? Because of MK's wife gave birth? Yeah right....

julianng said:
don't think so.... if we don't mention this .... who knows LCW might suicide before losing or when LD has match point next time.....

he should learn to keep the drama a bit more to himself .... or something really bad could happen if we don't limit his actions in these high profile matches....
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What on earth did the guy do to your sorry arse? He's lost and he can choose which ever way he wanted to lose it. I don't get it. Why a super fan of LD came here and mock a 'friend' of LD? LD's been trying to show the world both of them are best friends.
 
Orangie said:
Marc Zwiebler suffered the similiar scenario against DPY in Lining SO 2013 too. BTW AC is not switched off. :p

Anyway, such scenario do happens in any sports. May the stronger player wins.
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[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]
[GER]

[TD="align: right"] Marc Zwiebler
[/TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-
[/TD]
[TD]
[CHN]
Pengyu Du [1]
[/TD]
[TD]21-18 12-21 21-19
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1:10
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: ruler matches"]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]7.
[/TD]
[TD]Followed by
[/TD]
[TD]MS
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]
[VIE]

[TD="align: right"] Tien Minh Nguyen [6]
[/TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-
[/TD]
[TD]
[GER]
Marc Zwiebler
[/TD]
[TD]23-21 11-8 Retired
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0:31
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Cramp during competition is not uncommon in sports, but there are many reasons for it. Yet claiming that a top players fitness be easily gone by a single match is unbelievable...
 
Jonc108 said:
If Nadal and any other top tennis players said this comment, they must laugh to death... why a top player in this sport could have his fitness gone just by one single match??? This badminton sport must be a laughing stock....

Personally, I do hope LCW could win at least one WC. He deserves if if from badminton technique and devotion. Yet once again, he just keep himself away from the trophy by his mental and badminton intelligence.

Ask any pro-tennis player, as a top professional player, you must be prepared to play a whole week of toughest matches under the worst environment (like home court pressure or away court disadvantages). This is a basic for being a pro..

give me a reason why badminton player is assumed to be like a greenhouse child, not able to take on the storm, heat and other severe weather like players of all other sports??
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More the other way around - no sport (apart from American Football) has as many breaks as Tennis. In addition, Tennis players get a break day between matches, so there's really no comparison.
There had been a study comparing MS players in both Tennis and Badminton (distance run, time played, breaks), and it really didn't look so hot for the Tennis players, although one has to admit that it's an old one and the game has changed since then.
Also, didn't Nadal take like an 8-month-break after his match against Djokovic at the AO? I'm pretty certain he would not laugh at LCW for being spent after 2 tought matches in a row.
 
Cramps suffered by players are associated with their fitness level.
The not so fit players tend to get cramp if they play too much with too short resting time.
Or was it like a race car with too much octane that blew a ring? LOL
 
Cramps are also associated with athletes losing too much minerals by sweating, which basically results in disruptions of the brain's signals. Afaik, medicine isn't quite clear on what exactly causes cramps. Some people seem to have a tendency towards them while others don't - similar to migraines, I believe. However I don't recall there being an explanation for why that is so.
I, for example, can not remember ever getting a 'real' cramp - part of my calf muscle hardened and ached at times, but I never had one so bad I fell down and couldn't move or sth, no matter how hard I trained or pushed myself in competition.
 
Orangie said:
Marc Zwiebler suffered the similiar scenario against DPY in Lining SO 2013 too. BTW AC is not switched off. :p

Anyway, such scenario do happens in any sports. May the stronger player wins.
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[TR="bgcolor: transparent"]
[TD="align: right"]8:00 PM[/TD]
[TD]MS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]
[GER]

[TD="align: right"] Marc Zwiebler [/TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]
[CHN] Pengyu Du [1]
[/TD]
[TD]21-18 12-21 21-19[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1:10[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: ruler matches"]
[TR="bgcolor: #FDFDFD"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]7.[/TD]
[TD]Followed by[/TD]
[TD]MS [/TD]
[TD="align: right"]
[VIE]

[TD="align: right"] Tien Minh Nguyen [6] [/TD]
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]
[GER] Marc Zwiebler
[/TD]
[TD]23-21 11-8 Retired[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0:31[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Allen Iverson - The anklebreaker

Du Pengyu - The quadkiller
 
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