Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

And perhaps less "LCW isn't injured, he trick the media, I know since I can see his MRI scan better than doctors" theory.
Do you know the sensitivity and specificity of MRI scan as a diagnostic test in MCL injury?

And it was the media who reported his injury.
 
Do you know the sensitivity and specificity of MRI scan as a diagnostic test in MCL injury?

And it was the media who reported his injury.
Of course I don't know about it. People here seems to think otherwise though, saying it's "fake" without any evidence. Hendrawan confirms LCW's injury. Less bias please.
 
Of course I don't know about it. People here seems to think otherwise though, saying it's "fake" without any evidence. Hendrawan confirms LCW's injury. Less bias please.
Actually, people will re-question the original diagnosis as the recovery period seems remarkably quick for a top class athlete in this particular injury especially to get to near the top of his game.

Doctor's and diagnostic tests are not infallible.

It is not bias.
 
Lol, what he did was nothing. There was no yelling, not much emotion on his face, just two raised arms. He's not even shaking them at his opponent. Sure it may seem to be much for a non match point, but it was a hard fought point and it shows just how important this last AE outing is to him.

It's nothing compared to the constant verbal and fist assault we get from a certain WS player...

LOL I thought LCW did something offensive after reading some comments here about his behavior at 16-7 points in the semi-final.
He just raised his hand to celebrate? That's it??
Here I thought he was celebrating excessively by shouting at his opponent, take off his clothes or throwing his racket:p
We have seen much worst behavior from other players though

Chillax and stop over analyzing his action:rolleyes::rolleyes:
There is not much time left for him as he is getting older
At his age, its not easy to win especially when there are many younger players and he is more prone to injury
Other single players have chosen to retire at LCW's age and here we have LCW who still keeps going on strong as WR1

Anyway congrats LCW
Honestly I thought he will retire after Olympic games last year
I guess he is still not willing to hang up his racket yet
Bravo for his determination:)
 
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In the past, badminton players and especially singles players tended to retire by the time of their early thirties. That he (and Peter Gade) can / could still go strong is good for the game. Hu Yun is another who keeps going. Personally, I think it is good for the game, maintains interest and keeps people talking.

The trend will continue, PG captured his last Europe Championship at 34, LD won AE at 33, Sony DK won Singapore Open at 32, now LCW got AE at 34. Just like in tennis recently Roger Federer and Serena Williams, both at 35, who just won the recent Wimbledon.
 
because we saw what happened with Axelsen, who is no push over.
First thing that comes to mind is Axelsen's mentality (aka the Danish Temper) and also his physicality during rubber sets are.... erm.... lacking for a better word, stretched.
 
First thing that comes to mind is Axelsen's mentality (aka the Danish Temper) and also his physicality during rubber sets are.... erm.... lacking for a better word, stretched.
Depends on the match. In the OG Bronze match, he was fine with 3 games, but in the AE, LD made him run a LOT, especially in G2. Also I guess VA got frustrated since so many of his attacking shots came back and he couldnt get on the attack quite enough...
 
Huh? I watched the game again after you wrote this. Could you clarify at which point Chou acts like LCW did in 3rd game 16-7? I don't have any problem holding a fist up if you turn away from the opponent. In the screenshots, LCW is quite obviously facing his opponent....

It would be really good if you can state which point of the match Chou raises his fist at Lee Chong Wei. Thanks.
I didn't make myself clear enough, my bad. I don't mean to say that Chou raised his arm like Lee did, but Chou celebrated almost every point he EARNED in the first game of the semifinal, and there's nothing wrong with it, as with Lee's celebration after a hard fought point.

If this comment is really about what I said, I cannot agree. I did not say anything about fake personality. I said the reactions we talked about - which are very few and overall insignificant - are fake, or more precisely, look fake to me. It is very different then what you assumes.
Of course I know personalities are complex, who doesn't? That does not stop me of having impressions when I see somebody acting.
Beside, I never mentioned anything about LCW acting fake in the past because he was holding back.

I am sorry you feel wronged or upset because there are some comments on LCW's behaviour. But I think you are too sensitive here, little was said against him.
Regarding what happens in LD's thread, I agree with you, but it has little to do with our discussion here. If we could stop comparing LD and LCW all the time it would be a good start to the air cleaning you mentioned
Sorry for being too bashful. I was in a really bad mood that day because of all the hate Lee is getting, even if it's not his fault.

P.S. As for the affair with MF, I believe Lee should apologize to MF. He shouldn't have gone public with this matter, and he shouldn't have threatened to leave BAM if they don't get rid of MF. Whatever issue they have, they should sort it out on their own, privately. Using the media to pressure BAM and MF just feel like he's using his star power to bully MF. The fact that MF had to communicate with Lee through his coach or whoever tells me they really haven't had the chance to talk face to face. Only more misunderstanding will spawn from communicating through a middle person.
 
Having watched LD v SYQ match court side, I don't think he is slow. I think he was tired. He still has 80-90% the speed he did in say 2009-10 but he just doesn't have the stamina to use it all the time given his age. He had a tough match the day before against VA which would have taken a lot out of him.

I think if LCW had a gruelling match the day before, he may not have done quite so well either. It's obvious LCW's stamina is not what it used to be.

I also do not agree that this is laziness, as I don't think you can call anyone who reaches the semi's of the AE "lazy" - talent alone won't get you that far. Neither could you say his time is over. He beat VA the day before! Does that mean VA's time is over too then?

LCW went to a rubber to vanquish CTC. LCW is fitter than LD and he is 1 year older than LD too.
 
Always probable for LD. LD is too slow now. He can't keep up with the youngsters. That's why he always play stroke like it's 90s. Cannot inject pace and cannot retrieve SYQ's smash, how to win? He should retire already before loaing in every tournament he play. His time is already over. No more stroke boring play here. Can he even qualified in WC as THW, CL, SYQ and others are in front of him? Lazy is lazy.

it is not lazy lah... like Taufik it is time for LD to retire for good.
 
It is very probable LD let Shi win in the SF. It is not that he's slow, cannot inject pace, or anything, because we saw what happened with Axelsen, who is no push over.
LD does not want to meet LCW I suppose. Keep that for the WC and Team competition...
boohoooo.... "probable LD let Shi win in the SF." If it was true, the strategy did not work as LCW trounced Shi in the Final. It was not even close.
 
Congratulation to our beloved Datuk.... You delivered another glorious achievement and makes all fans be it here in Malaysia and the out side world very very, very proud. Despite this. BAM must realize that China already has few new blood that is able to beat LD and a sooner gong to be a serious contender in the world of Badminton while Malaysia has not yet able to produce one.

Do you think LCW will be able to play in next year AE as he said while still remains under BAM? It is interesting that he said he will back to Birmingham next year.
 
Please show a screenshot of CTC directly facing Wang ZhengMing and doing the shouting and pumping the fist. Most times when pumping the fist (I say most because I haven't reviewed all the match), CTC immediately turns his back towards Wang (CTC doesn't have eyes at the back of his head).

Again, I repeat, I have no issue if not facing the opponent directly.
it is called intimidation tactic. LCW, Marin and Kevin do it once a while. It is fine IMHO.
 
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What is Morten Frost hired to do for BAM ? He must have done right the previous time, that's why BAM top officials lured him back the second time with certain KPIs to fulfil. If he has done anything wrong, why wasn't he taken to task, reprimanded or sacked ? Instead the BAM President likened it to a husband-and-wife quarrel and came out with that expedient solution in the hope the whole ugly matter will blow over or resolve itself as time goes by.

Keep in mind that MF is NOT hired by BAM, but by Malaysian government. :-)

That really adds to the possible tensions in the whole setup.

Cheers,
FB
 
He just raised his hand to celebrate? That's it??
Nope, he faced his opponent when doing so.


Chou celebrated almost every point he EARNED in the first game of the semifinal,
but did he face LCW when doing so?


I suppose I have to just make it absolutely clear again that I am not opposed to raising fists or shouting after winning points. I don't think players (not one player) should be directly facing their opponent when doing so.
 
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Nope, he faced his opponent when doing so.


but did he face LCW when doing so?


I suppose I have to just make it absolutely clear again that I am not opposed to raising fists or shouting after winning points. I don't think players (not one player) should be directly facing their opponent when doing so.
If we believe what the commentators say during the matches, to raise the fist facing your opponent is actually forbidden, but a lot of players do it, perhaps without realising
 
P.S. As for the affair with MF, I believe Lee should apologize to MF. He shouldn't have gone public with this matter, and he shouldn't have threatened to leave BAM if they don't get rid of MF. Whatever issue they have, they should sort it out on their own, privately. Using the media to pressure BAM and MF just feel like he's using his star power to bully MF. The fact that MF had to communicate with Lee through his coach or whoever tells me they really haven't had the chance to talk face to face. Only more misunderstanding will spawn from communicating through a middle person.

I don't think he need to apologize. The altercation started after Rio when MF already want LCW to retire. Meanwhile MF himself still don't have anyone in the camp that is capable of winning titles in MS. MF was the one who didn't let TSB to be with him during Japan Open but LCW responded by actually WINNING the Japan Open.

LCW requested for a mat change but everything was ignored until he was injured then he was asked via Hendrawan when he's retiring by MF. I think LCW already been quiet for so long until he erupted in the media. The whole thing started after Rio but it only come into surface earlier this year. How would you feel as an athlete if you know you could still win titles but already asked to retire ? And this he responded by winning Japan Open, then now All England which can be a huge moral boost to win WC. It took immense effort to stay in shape at his age, working hard on court and leaving his family for a long time for tournaments abroad. With how he's been treated by MF, I don't see how he owe any apology to him. It was MF who triggered the feud.

Some Malay friends actually said ang mo MF is prolly just trying to pave way for his home boy Axelsen by trying to get rid of LCW off his way to smooth him winning big titles. But LCW is fighting back his right to still play. What do you say to that claim?
 
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