Let's conclude it, Lin Dan is the best MS baddy player in human history.

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  1. Jonc108

    Jonc108 Regular Member

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    look at what TH, LD, LCW and Rashid said after the TC matches, could you feel the difference between TH/LD and LCW???
     
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    thanks for all your hard work!:)
     
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    LCW summed it best, "I just lost to myself.”

    It does seem, when he's playing LD, that he's unsure of himself.

    Maybe what LCW needs is more aggresive skilled players to spar and practice with him on the MAS team in order to train him to a higher level of play.
     
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    one from the mature and ture champions, the other surely not.
     
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    Rashid statement to say "we lsot to a better team." is abdicating his duty as coach becasue that statement pushes all responsibility to a poorer team ie MAS.

    He should have simply said "I have failed becasue ......"
     
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    yes... in ancient japan failure will end up with hirakari..
     
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    and the difference between Rashid and LCW???
     
  8. limsy

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    this is another example of trust the press interview
    this world is so nice as people is naive:D
    innocent and crimeless:D

    but thankfully i attend the class of media studies:D
     
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    Lee Chong Wei could have choose to be pessimistic about the lost, but that's the end of it.
    oh, I do not prefer him to go boasting about he'll do the best too, what matters is "show it"
     
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    LD is the player playing at higher level than the rest. Only Players who can beat him is his teamates now or general Li. LCW has not beaten him since 2009.

    LD is good because of his speed but most importantly it is his efficiency. He makes very few mistakes during crucial games choose to play those shots that he is good and be patient when he could not play them.

    Basically its about percentage. LCW was winning points in the 1st game when he started to attack with less mistakes.

    He got demoralise in the 2nd when his attacks were returned by LD. LD was doing the attack of his own. In fact I have often seen LCW recently using very effective attack but I didnt see it when facing LD therefore I could only conclude it's a combination of LCW lack of confidence and wrong tactics.. Then he started to do double motion a la ZJH, wrong tactic to use as ZJH often fall flat when used against Yang Yang only allow LD to rake in more easy points. LCW lost 5 points on those cross court net shots in the 2nd game.
     
  11. Wong8Egg

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    Well say. It is rather frustrating to see LCW keep doing that cross court net shot when he almost gets pwned every time. Ld was just waiting there expect a double action cross court.

    LCW fail to employ different tactics and it is quite hard to understand consider his level and experience. We can clearly see how Taufik tried different shots and pace in attemp to break down Ld's defense. LCW in the other hand seems only responding to whatever LD is doing and not setting up his game.

    I still remembering the Hong Kong open 06 final between Lee and Lin. When they go toe to toe in full throttle. It was a good display of LCW attacking game in confident. Since Li Mao quit and Misbun take over, LCW's game has gone into a complete different direction and play conservatively. It could be effective when he his pace is higher than his opponent, but not LD.
     
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    datuk simply does not have the will and drive to win. the only thing he is interested in driving is his Nissan GT-R that costs more than half-a million ringgit.
    already MAS No.1, there is no need for him to train harder to move higher. there is no point and impossible. nobody alive today can take on SUPER DAN at his best.
    datuk now mixes with high society like the PM's wife. summore dumped poor little mew choo for a pretty stewardess i heard.
     
  13. pBmMalaysia

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    i think most of the englishmen or their fans have kicked the bucket by now (2010-1900+25=135 yrs) :cool:

    should change your benchmark year and we malaysian should keep bragging otherwise we shall be in the same boat as the english (gone)? :D
     
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    No doubt LD is the best. Unless LCW can beat lindan in more games to come to have an upper hand on the record. If I am lindan, I'll retire early to keep the record. lol.. ;) Still the overall match statistics helps. win-loose margin. Controversy is always there.;)
     
  15. visor

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    As limsy said, it's a matter of inborn personality and there is nothing he nor his coaches can do to change it. This can be gleaned from press interviews and off court behaviour. He is just too cordial, meek, nice. Compare to LD, who is aggressive, even arrogant. The one who believes in himself, even to the point of conceit and arrogance, will dominate... all else being equal.And don't think that LCW is the only one tempted to enjoy the good life with his fame and fortune, I'm sure LD does the same too.
     
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    hmm, who said 'I never lost in malaysia'? Is that meek?

    well, all those 'qualities' u had listed were endorsed by LN. More sour grape?
     

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    well
    even i didnt lost in malaysia
    haha
    i born here
    live here more than 19 years
    how to get lost?
    haha
    just joking
     
  18. pralinescream

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    disagree wt this naive statement.
    sum ppl are more driven than most.
    winners have highest pride, sense of pride, never say die attitude and always seek for higher level of skill and enlightenment in a specific discipline.

    sum ppl are less driven, with low pride, easily die attitude and just content to be the best in the small pond.

    of course, it depends on many factors. most of it is in-born; some is influenced by others, e.g. endless praises, blind idol worshipping by low-demanding fans, etc.
     
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    I'm not sure I understand you... can you clarify?
     
  20. visor

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    True, true.

    I'm sure both LD and LCW are quite driven to succeed... just one more than the other.
     

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