Let's conclude it, Lin Dan is the best MS baddy player in human history.

Jonc108 said:
also extracted from BadZine:

http://www.badzine.info/index.php/n...-2010-semifinals-malaysia-why-so-serious.html

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It looked like a painful moment of truth for Malaysia’s golden boy Lee Chong Wei: After two years, the distance between Lin Dan and himself hasn’t been bridged despite the fact that the Chinese has significantly cut back on competing in the international circuit while the Malaysian has been unbeatable in the Super Series this year and even scooped his first All England title.

The 21-17, 21-8 score-line bears resemblance to the 2008 Olympic Games final between the duo, which Lin Dan won in scores of 21-12, 21-8.

Revealing that it was a mental battle that he lost, Chong Wei said: "When I went onto the court, I wanted to win the first point for Malaysia so badly. In the first game, when nothing worked for me, I lost my confidence. Then, I made many mistakes and didn't play my usual game. The crowd pressure is not an excuse for my defeat, I just lost to myself.”

In terms of technique, Chong Wei does believe that he has caught up with the Olympic champion but of course winning a match of this stature requires more than just a high level of technique. As it was at the Thomas Cup finals, it boiled down to the hosts being mentally overwhelmed.

Chong Wei shared: “Each time a shot came at me, I thought too much and had no idea where I should place my shot. My strategy simply couldn't work today. The occasion plays a big part but I do think that the disparity between our individual skills and techniques has narrowed.”

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It is a charge that Malaysia’s head coach Rashid Sidek can’t deny. Rashid said: "We lost to a better team. China deserved to win. We thought that our preparations were solid, but they beat us to it.”

“The Chinese don't seem to show their true colours at the international tournaments: today's Lin Dan is not the same Lin Dan as was at All England. We are now pressed to develop and raise the quality of the young players in our squad,” concluded Rashid.

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Rashid statement to say "we lsot to a better team." is abdicating his duty as coach becasue that statement pushes all responsibility to a poorer team ie MAS.

He should have simply said "I have failed becasue ......"
 
hot-turtle said:
Rashid statement to say "we lsot to a better team." is abdicating his duty as coach becasue that statement pushes all responsibility to a poorer team ie MAS.

He should have simply said "I have failed becasue ......"
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yes... in ancient japan failure will end up with hirakari..
 
this is another example of trust the press interview
this world is so nice as people is naive:D
innocent and crimeless:D

but thankfully i attend the class of media studies:D
 
Jonc108 said:
look at what TH, LD, LCW and Rashid said after the TC matches, could you feel the difference between TH/LD and LCW???
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Lee Chong Wei could have choose to be pessimistic about the lost, but that's the end of it.
oh, I do not prefer him to go boasting about he'll do the best too, what matters is "show it"
 
LD is the player playing at higher level than the rest. Only Players who can beat him is his teamates now or general Li. LCW has not beaten him since 2009.

LD is good because of his speed but most importantly it is his efficiency. He makes very few mistakes during crucial games choose to play those shots that he is good and be patient when he could not play them.

Basically its about percentage. LCW was winning points in the 1st game when he started to attack with less mistakes.

He got demoralise in the 2nd when his attacks were returned by LD. LD was doing the attack of his own. In fact I have often seen LCW recently using very effective attack but I didnt see it when facing LD therefore I could only conclude it's a combination of LCW lack of confidence and wrong tactics.. Then he started to do double motion a la ZJH, wrong tactic to use as ZJH often fall flat when used against Yang Yang only allow LD to rake in more easy points. LCW lost 5 points on those cross court net shots in the 2nd game.
 
sonnymak said:
He got demoralise in the 2nd when his attacks were returned by LD. LD was doing the attack of his own. In fact I have often seen LCW recently using very effective attack but I didnt see it when facing LD therefore I could only conclude it's a combination of LCW lack of confidence and wrong tactics.. Then he started to do double motion a la ZJH, wrong tactic to use as ZJH often fall flat when used against Yang Yang only allow LD to rake in more easy points. LCW lost 5 points on those cross court net shots in the 2nd game.
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Well say. It is rather frustrating to see LCW keep doing that cross court net shot when he almost gets pwned every time. Ld was just waiting there expect a double action cross court.

LCW fail to employ different tactics and it is quite hard to understand consider his level and experience. We can clearly see how Taufik tried different shots and pace in attemp to break down Ld's defense. LCW in the other hand seems only responding to whatever LD is doing and not setting up his game.

I still remembering the Hong Kong open 06 final between Lee and Lin. When they go toe to toe in full throttle. It was a good display of LCW attacking game in confident. Since Li Mao quit and Misbun take over, LCW's game has gone into a complete different direction and play conservatively. It could be effective when he his pace is higher than his opponent, but not LD.
 
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datuk simply does not have the will and drive to win. the only thing he is interested in driving is his Nissan GT-R that costs more than half-a million ringgit.
already MAS No.1, there is no need for him to train harder to move higher. there is no point and impossible. nobody alive today can take on SUPER DAN at his best.
datuk now mixes with high society like the PM's wife. summore dumped poor little mew choo for a pretty stewardess i heard.
 
cooler said:
The all england is the oldest badminton tournament and has good history so i will use this as benchmark. If u go all the way back to 1900, england is still the most dominant in history. Do u see englishmen bragging here??
end of story.
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i think most of the englishmen or their fans have kicked the bucket by now (2010-1900+25=135 yrs) :cool:

should change your benchmark year and we malaysian should keep bragging otherwise we shall be in the same boat as the english (gone)? :D
 
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No doubt LD is the best. Unless LCW can beat lindan in more games to come to have an upper hand on the record. If I am lindan, I'll retire early to keep the record. lol.. ;) Still the overall match statistics helps. win-loose margin. Controversy is always there.;)
 
pralinescream said:
datuk simply does not have the will and drive to win. the only thing he is interested in driving is his Nissan GT-R that costs more than half-a million ringgit.
already MAS No.1, there is no need for him to train harder to move higher. there is no point and impossible. nobody alive today can take on SUPER DAN at his best.
datuk now mixes with high society like the PM's wife. summore dumped poor little mew choo for a pretty stewardess i heard.
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As limsy said, it's a matter of inborn personality and there is nothing he nor his coaches can do to change it. This can be gleaned from press interviews and off court behaviour. He is just too cordial, meek, nice. Compare to LD, who is aggressive, even arrogant. The one who believes in himself, even to the point of conceit and arrogance, will dominate... all else being equal.And don't think that LCW is the only one tempted to enjoy the good life with his fame and fortune, I'm sure LD does the same too.
 
visor said:
As limsy said, it's a matter of inborn personality and there is nothing he nor his coaches can do to change it. This can be gleaned from press interviews and off court behaviour. He is just too cordial, meek, nice. Compare to LD, who is aggressive, even arrogant. The one who believes in himself, even to the point of conceit and arrogance, will dominate... all else being equal.And don't think that LCW is the only one tempted to enjoy the good life with his fame and fortune, I'm sure LD does the same too.
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hmm, who said 'I never lost in malaysia'? Is that meek?

well, all those 'qualities' u had listed were endorsed by LN. More sour grape?
 

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well
even i didnt lost in malaysia
haha
i born here
live here more than 19 years
how to get lost?
haha
just joking
 
visor said:
.And don't think that LCW is the only one tempted to enjoy the good life with his fame and fortune, I'm sure LD does the same too.
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disagree wt this naive statement.
sum ppl are more driven than most.
winners have highest pride, sense of pride, never say die attitude and always seek for higher level of skill and enlightenment in a specific discipline.

sum ppl are less driven, with low pride, easily die attitude and just content to be the best in the small pond.

of course, it depends on many factors. most of it is in-born; some is influenced by others, e.g. endless praises, blind idol worshipping by low-demanding fans, etc.
 
pralinescream said:
disagree wt this naive statement.
sum ppl are more driven than most.
winners have highest pride, sense of pride, never say die attitude and always seek for higher level of skill and enlightenment in a specific discipline.

sum ppl are less driven, with low pride, easily die attitude and just content to be the best in the small pond.

of course, it depends on many factors. most of it is in-born; some is influenced by others, e.g. endless praises, blind idol worshipping by low-demanding fans, etc.
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True, true.

I'm sure both LD and LCW are quite driven to succeed... just one more than the other.
 
The greatest player of his generation: Yes definitely, based on his results from the past five years.

The greatest player of human history: You must be joking, the answer is certainly 'No' until he could match or break other players' amazing records. And I believe every 10-20 years to come we will see some greater players than LD.
 
pralinescream said:
disagree wt this naive statement.
sum ppl are more driven than most.
winners have highest pride, sense of pride, never say die attitude and always seek for higher level of skill and enlightenment in a specific discipline.

sum ppl are less driven, with low pride, easily die attitude and just content to be the best in the small pond.

of course, it depends on many factors. most of it is in-born; some is influenced by others, e.g. endless praises, blind idol worshipping by low-demanding fans, etc.
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i certainly hope you are not reffering to lin dan and lee chong wei!:p
 
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