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These 2 posts basically carry the same message(personal attacks), if this bananakid from North America didn't get a warning then I am inclined to follow his style of post as well in the forum.

By the way, are the mods being biased towards Malaysians supporters? The fact that a few trolls from NA are still active in BC(despite all the insults they threw towards non-Chinese fans these past few years), especially those from Canada, say otherwise. Get your facts straight.

P/S: nice act, you claimed you won't even bother visiting this forum, yet here I saw your post. By the way, if you decide to leave, good job, you have done the community a whole world of good.
One of the example that if his own kind makes insults..he wont say it...he jumps in it..he even insulted some of BC;s mother( very vulgarly)..I think he forgot..he did not get banned at all...hm..may be 2 or 3 days only..
Basically he said it to his own kind that some of his got thick skin...
 
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ROFL...it is so funny that some posters think they are Guru Ethic...never breaks rules...Man in the mirror...he, himself is the worst example...attacks many BC members ..did not get ban either but asking others to get banned...
some posted vulgar language and got away with it either...
 
wait...so are you suggesting that of all the prestigious titles LD has won, its because of his freebys from his countrymen? and that he has demonstrated no skills whatsoever beating out players from other countries such as PG TH LCW etc?...i dont know the stats but im pretty sure LD owns a 75% plus winning rate over all of those players you have mentioned.

i dont think im been mislead to anything :eek:

If that's the way my post have misled you, I apologise for that. I am not saying that all the prestigious titles LD has won was due to freebys from his own countrymen.

I do, by all mean think that LD is one of the best player in the world so far. I merely pointing out to people that we shouldn't put LD and other players in the world on the same ground to compare title to title and claim that LD is much better than the rest because his achievement is diluted by such factors (ie. match fixing).

Hence, I said he's one of the best player. But whether or not the best? Very much arguably since there's this x factor which we could not quantify.
 
yes, that's what they believe, LD winning over lcw and TH by using trickery too. All this time i thot taufik was the magician


the only logical fix could be the 2008 AE as LD lost to CJ, there was a motive which was to increase cj qualifying point for 08 OG. In this alleged fix, LD lost lol. You can see all the talk is about fix to help LD win

I wonder why you would only point out the fixing which LD lost to the opponent. How about the rest where LD get a freebys and hence have conserved his energy to play the next round?

Just to name a few examples.

AE 2009 - Chen Jin(which hardly showed any signs of discomfort when he fought tooth-and-nail” to win his quarter-final) retired from simi-final in his 2nd game against LD to give him a freebys and conserved his energy to then beat LCW in final. In just one week time, the result was overturned in SO 2009 when LD get no freebys.

OG2008 - Lin Dan relatively easy win over Chen Jin and the whole match look more like a routine training than a fight for OG gold medal?

There's more suspecious passes around which I do not have time to point out the actual data now. But just for a record LYB have publicly and proudly admitted about his match-fixing act before in the past. For a coach with such records, how comfort are we that he's not doing it at any other tournament?

Lin Dan Takes It Easy Against Chen
Amid jeers of "match-fixing" from the crowd, All England champion Chen Jin beat compatriot and top-ranked Lin Dan in the Asian Championships semi-finals to ensure China of three men's singles places at the Beijing Olympics.
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One month after China's head coach Li Yongbo admitted to match-fixing at the 2004 Athens Olympics, Chen beat Lin 21-13, 21-15 to make sure of his place in the top four of the world rankings.

Each country is allowed only two players in the Olympic draw. However, an exception is made if a country has three players inside the world's top four.

Chen's victory means he cannot drop lower than his current fourth ranking come Olympic qualification deadline on April 30, joining Lin and world number three Bao Chunlai in the Beijing Games draw.

Last month, Li proudly admitted that the 2004 Athens Olympic women's semi-final between Zhang Ning and Zhou Mi was fixed to allow Zhang to reach the final, which she eventually won.

Saturday's clash between Chen and Lin had all the hallmarks of a similar arrangement, though Chen did not see it that way.

"I think Lin played his normal game and I played my normal game," he told reporters. "I've very happy to confirm my place in the Olympics but now I have to start from the beginning again."

In his admission last month, Li said: "It shows our patriotism and in fact I'm proud of it."

When pressed about Li's comments, Chen said: "I don't know about that, I'm just happy to get into the Olympics."

Lin's decision to compete in the Asian Championships, the final regional Olympic qualifier, raised eyebrows because his place in the Beijing Games was already assured.

There was speculation in the Chinese media that Lin's presence in the tournament was only to ease Chen's path to the Olympics.

Indeed, Lin appeared to have no interest in the match and did not make a single smash in anger. The knowledgeable Malaysian crowd jeered every time Lin failed to attack a potential smash or lazily missed easy shots.

Lin was unavailable for comment after the match.

Chen's victory means Dane Kenneth Jonassen, the world number five, cannot break into the top four, even though he won the European Championship men's singles title in Herning, Denmark.

Jonassen, however, said Chen still deserves to be in the Olympics despite having an easy passage.

He said: "They put the nation first and I expected that to happen. It is something we never do in Denmark but Chen deserves to be in the Olympics, even if he had an easy draw."
http://www.badminton-information.com/lin_dan_takes_it_easy_against_chen.html

Just for your reading before you tell me LYB have not admitted about it in the past
 
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I wonder why you would only point out the fixing which LD lost to the opponent. How about the rest where LD get a freebys and hence have conserved his energy to play the next round?

Just to name a few examples.

AE 2009 - Chen Jin(which hardly showed any signs of discomfort when he fought tooth-and-nail” to win his quarter-final) retired from simi-final in his 2nd game against LD to give him a freebys and conserved his energy to then beat LCW in final. In just one week time, the result was overturned in SO 2009 when LD get no freebys.

OG2008 - Lin Dan relatively easy win over Chen Jin and the whole match look more like a routine training than a fight for OG gold medal?

There's more suspecious passes around which I do not have time to point out the actual data now. But just for a record LYB have publicly and proudly admitted about his match-fixing act before in the past. For a coach with such records, how comfort are we that he's not doing it at any other tournament?


http://www.badminton-information.com/lin_dan_takes_it_easy_against_chen.html

Just for your reading before you tell me LYB have not admitted about it in the past
fyi, i practically have read almost all posts in bf. This is old and well known news. Did i say lyb don't play badminton to his advantage? did i say lyb haven't admitted fixing? u should debate on specific point, not some same old same old rhetoric which i have already gave my explanation before. All i hear is same old whining. When chinese players are group together in a draw, suspicion of fixing abound. When chinese players are spread out evenly in a draw, weaker countries whines about having to face chinese player(s) so early in a draw and why they can't advance or gain QF or better experience. The fear of china domination at the 2010 AE, never happen.

Any time they are losing, u whine about fixed match or biased chinese officiating. For ex, 2007 china open, bolehians howls about biased chinese line judging when lcw lost to bcl although yet todate, no tangible proof of evidence was ever presented, but guilty ruling accepted by bolehians based on emotion and lcw's antics and facial expression, ya, real proof.

However, when playing in unbiased country like the 2010 AE, numerous bad calls where made (with clear tangible video proofs) but with no howling from taufik and lcw fans? i read in bf that taufik lost to peter gade could be due to some bad calls? why no screaming of fixing or biased line call from the taufik's camp? When lcw won by an obvious bad call in his favor, why no outcry of biased line judges but offer their final judgement as 'a win is a win' LOL. So a win they take regardless how it came to them but a lost they can not accept.

when taufik lose to a non chinese or can't point fingers at china team fixing, we get 'why taufik lost' threads, collection depots of inhouse excuses.
 
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invinkoh, very soon you will get used to cooler, our google man. there are 1.35 million post in bc and he reads nearly all of them, why?

there is no doubts lin dan gets freebys or lyb playing his dirty tactics every now and then. we can't say its illegal ..
 
im TH fans...i ve seen the match again (TH vs PG), and im sure that is bad call...but both payers know that there is code of conduct, eventhough TH look s very angry...We not screaming cos we know that overall the result is fair enough...both players give us a classic match...as a badminton lovers what else can be expected, that match is fantastic....linesman is a human too....

winning is important but not everything, enjoy the game is a must for badminton lover, except a fanboy will scream everywhere :D:D:D

u got that right!!!!!!!!!!!
 
obviously, some people don't understand or careless about warnings.
this is how bf is becoming into, having some loud mouth posters dictating mods.

btw, i don't care how LD lost either.
 
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A refreshing aspect of AE2010 was the quality of the All china matches. In particular XD, WD & WS matches were very tight and keenly fought.
That's great to see.
No match fixing options possible yet because LYB cannot see any 99% 'guarantee to deliver' performer. All the CHN players are still searching for consistency.
Come 2012, this all-CHN pleasure will give way to desperate match fixing malaise, LYB style.
 
That's great to see.
No match fixing options possible yet because LYB cannot see any 99% 'guarantee to deliver' performer. All the CHN players are still searching for consistency.
Come 2012, this all-CHN pleasure will give way to desperate match fixing malaise, LYB style.
I think this mentality is need to gear up for the team events like Thomas Cup and Uber Cup. Winner takes all.
 
i repeat for u again(for the 3rd time), read my profile under occupation.

ya, but i still dont believe your occupation is reading post and emails, obviously you are paid for this. if reading you got paid what about posting:D

im TH fans...i ve seen the match again (TH vs PG), and im sure that is bad call...eventhough TH look s very angry...We not screaming cos we know that overall the result is fair enough...both players give us a classic match...as a badminton lovers what else can be expected, that match is fantastic....linesman is a human too....

winning is important but not everything, enjoy the game is a must for badminton lover, except a fanboy will scream everywhere :D:D:D

u got that right!!!!!!!!!!!

cooler, obviously you didn't see the red light and you dash across?:o
 
yes...as long as he win over his teammate before facing TH, LCW, or PG

dearest cooler...
u should more proportional with ur comment bout Indonesian players...i bet u never met and talk with the team. I hope u will met them soon so u can be more wise and mature here....if not u just lowering ur value here, no one will trust u ... when it s happened, what's the point you are alive if nobody respect u

O.o... wow lol this is funny. Supporting Indonesia cuz ur from there?.
 
yes...as long as he win over his teammate before facing TH, LCW, or PG

dearest cooler...
u should more proportional with ur comment bout Indonesian players...i bet u never met and talk with the team. I hope u will met them soon so u can be more wise and mature here....if not u just lowering ur value here, no one will trust u ... when it s happened, what's the point you are alive if nobody respect u
maybe i didn't meet as many as u have. I have met, chat and lunch with ardy wiranata, tony G, Halim Heryanto. Sparred with ardy too since he is here full time. Also played in indonesian culture/badminton club for ~ 15 years. Help them raised money in many fund raisers. U r in a coma if u think all INA badminton fans are crazy for taufik like u fanboy. So how many chinese pro players have u met and had lunch with?
 
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wrong again...im TH Fan, but also PG fan, ZJH fan, LD footwork fans, and of course indonesian fans, overall im a badminton fans....

but im not Lin Dan Fanboy like u...

lol, no answer to my previous question huh?

wow, then u r holier than other badminton fans? did i call u name becaue u r not ld fanboy? why do i need your respect? your attitude and values explain why tony G, ardy W, mia audina, halim H, plus many many INA players who left INA.
 
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