so is sledging by the aussies
Macau Open 2007- final-07 October 2007
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so is sledging by the aussies
is michael schumacher a cheat because of team orders?
Literally means: an empty drum produces a loud noise...
Yep, I agree with Gundala... But I suggest we just ignore that annoying person who writes mostly nonsense and fiction. Let's just continue to have fun with badminton shall we... Otherwise we will all get banned from BC because of that guy... Not worth it... 
You got that right...
You're a smart guy...
Tommy Susanto
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BC Limerick #2
who, quite smartly,has been thinking
of how to get China to come clean
but some BC members got mean
because they are not up to his clear reasoning
There is a member called vchingThere was a member named vching
who, quite clearly, was itching
to call China a cheat
and then beat a retreat.
Ah, what else is this but bitching?
who, quite smartly,has been thinking
of how to get China to come clean
but some BC members got mean
because they are not up to his clear reasoning
There he goes again...
Since vching is repeating himself, I'm gonna repeat some myself:
What exactly is this 'suspicious Chinese behaviour'?
Do you mean 'winning' is 'suspicious behaviour'?
Do you mean a 'tactical approach' is 'suspicious behaviour'?
Do you mean 'psychological strategy' is 'suspicious behaviour'?
Mate, I'd hate for you to be a football or cricket fan.
If you were, then every team would be on your 'extreme suspicion' list.
Competition is not just about skills and fitness...
...it's also about strategy and tactics, including the psychological variety.
If I were Lin Dan playing Taufik... and if I knew that staring at Taufik makes him angry, I'd do it often enough to make him lose his cool (and thereby make errors).
In cricket and rugby, the Australians are well-known (notorious, in fact) for their sledging tactics on the field.
Almost every baseball catcher and cricket wicketkeeper resorts to taunting the opponent.
John McEnroe's tantrums were designed more to upset his opponent's rhythm rather than earn some ruling in his favour.
There was an incident (in the 1980s) when chess champion Anatoly Karpov had his personal pyschologist sit behind him and stare unblinkingly at the Russian defector Viktor Korchnoi.
If the China team boss thinks his country would earn an advantage if one of his players were to lose to another, then that's his call. That shouldn't arouse suspicion... it should be reason for admiration. (I remember seeing Rubens Barrichello giving way to Ferrari team-mate Michael Schumacher very near the finish-line at the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix ... this resulted from a 'team order'.)
If Chen Jin wipes his sweat on the shuttlecock, there are umpteen things his opponent can do. Whining (later) is not the best reply.
It'd be useful and laudable to stop whining whenever China wins.
The losers could do better by planning how to pay back in the same coin.
Well I listen all the arguments from both side so far. I have my own opinion.
But all you listed above are not in my standard of sportsmanship, I don't care if it was done by who and who. I believe that you would agree in bottom of your heart that you don't mean to condone that unnecessary behavior if you can win without, do you ?
We have to remember this just games which means at the end is all about entertainment. But you guys include all the associations that your support either China, Indonesia or Malaysia has lost the spirit of the sports "it is just entertainment".
They are talking about individual event not team event. If you put it as no different, then is not worth watching for any finals where players come from the same country. The country with the same players in final has achieved his objective, WINNING ! is WINNING means everything ? may be to some but I am very disappointed if it so.
No wonder so many athletes willing to take the risk to win or be shamed. Too many bad example like Marion Jones.
There was a member named vching
who, quite clearly, was itching
to call China a cheat
and then beat a retreat.
Ah, what else is this but bitching?
There is a member called vching
who, quite smartly,has been thinking
of how to get China to come clean
but some BC members got mean
because they are not up to his clear reasoning
eh... everyone making fun of me?
completely agree, while it is not against the rules, it is against the spirit of the sport and notions of sportsmanship.
can you give us one prove
they can't....they are just trying to scapegoat indonesia...
i'm liking you!
then it is against the spirit of the sport. Just because aussies sledge, it dosent mean that it makes the actions by China any more acceptable.
I think the difference here is, other countries do suspicious walkovers when it will make big differences, but LYB wants to manipulate every single ranking point whenever possible.
Those ppl who like such "team strategies" are fanatic fans. For example, LD - XXZ in 03 WC was determined by the first game (rumor has it that LD was really unhappy about that), and BCL - XXZ was totally fixed. I can't imagine a real badminton lover can still be happy watching these two videos after knowing the above. Besides it's really unfair to WCH stamina-wise.
Those ppl who like such "team strategies" are fanatic fans. For example, LD - XXZ in 03 WC was determined by the first game (rumor has it that LD was really unhappy about that), and BCL - XXZ was totally fixed. I can't imagine a real badminton lover can still be happy watching these two videos after knowing the above. Besides it's really unfair to WCH stamina-wise.
I guess he/she meant doing illegal services. LOL. Dannyang should watch hundreds of videos, watch every serve, obtain the ratio of legel-illegal services, and then come here and claim who is the worst "serve cheater" in badminton...
Restricting #s of players is indeed not a fair practice. However, this is the best BWF can do. Does FIFA choose 32 "best" teams for World Cup? No! The teams in European Championships, are they all better than those not in it? Obviously no!
Restricting #s of players is indeed not a fair practice. However, this is the best BWF can do. Does FIFA choose 32 "best" teams for World Cup? No! The teams in European Championships, are they all better than those not in it? Obviously no!
You never read what LYB said each time after Chn players lost? Bad wind, bad stadium, bad umpire, noisy spectators, we lost because we dont care the result, blahblah.
The players do not say much because LYB does all the talking.
The players do not say much because LYB does all the talking.
leonardklh
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koo kien keat and tan boon heong won!! finally back in form
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