Macau Open 2007, Semi Finals 06 October 2007

[ye333]

Hey I am not MAS fan (I have to admit I like CTF/LWW's style more than CY/FHF though). Just find the phenomenon very interesting.

wow.... some new theory expounded.... self consolation ?

 

[badMania]

U should see the bench just now...all INA players and coaches + MAS team were rooting for CTF/LWW and Wong Choong Hann (too bad he lost )

 

[ye333]

I think PSH was annoyed by the line judges, and then TH was annoyed by PSH pointing to the lines all the time. Seemed like "Man could you stop this and just play?"

during taufik's 2nd set,something happen izit???he scolded psh?????i need info!!!

 

[ye333]

I am actually CHN fan... Just really don't like the styles of CJ and CY/FHF... Sad ah sad...

U should see the bench just now...all INA players and coaches + MAS team were rooting for CTF/LWW and Wong Choong Hann (too bad he lost )

 

[Han]

Yeah, we are glad MAS can win the "kachang puteh" Macau Open title as u wrote earlier, and not CHINA

So glad I make so many "friends"(subject to individual interpretation) in this chat room Keep up the good work on your pre and post games analysis, I truly enjoy reading them.
I think there's doubt on Markis's mind each time when he plays against KKK/TBH for whatever reason.

 

[Krisna]

Yeah, we are glad MAS can win the "kachang puteh" Macau Open title as u wrote earlier, and not CHINA

Yup... my sentiments exactly!

U should see the bench just now...all INA players and coaches + MAS team were rooting for CTF/LWW and Wong Choong Hann (too bad he lost )

Of course! Better that our neighbours win rather than CHN... Hey, after all, we are all ASEAN people... Last time in the Indonesian Open, all the Indonesians were cheering for Lee Chong Wei too. LCW said he felt at home in Jakarta... [Well that is until next year if he faces Taufik/Sony/Simon/Andre/Tommy... then the crowd will start shouting 'Ganyang Malaysia!' again]

...oh well, in politics as well as in international-badminton, there are no permanent friends, everybody are just 'temporary allies'... Sorry, nothing personal, it is just business ~Godfather~

 

[robin7]

There are always some sour talks from the losing fans. Too bad. A loss is a loss and a win is a win whether it is 7-star tourneys or "kacang putih" tourneys. Player(s) can lose the match but can never lose the lesson.

Some die-hard fans have already prepared the excuse for the loss even before the match started.

A smart fan should always accept the truth and take it gentlemanly whether losing or winning. Sour talks are so not gentlemenly, so to speak.

You know who you are.

 

[Krisna]

Badminton realities...

Yup...I echo Krisna's comments! WE INA Fans will not wail or jeer our players/pairs in defeat. Anyway, we still hold the TWO World Championships titles (including MD) till 2009 There's no doubting that

INA has such a long badminton tradition that we have seen up-and-down cycles so many times... that we are hardened and mature about badminton eventualities... I remember earlier in 1992, INA lost the Thomas Cup finals to MAS... yet, a few months later in the Olympics, INA got 2 golds, 2 silvers, etc. MAS didn't get any of the big prizes... This year, INA only won 1 Superseries title in the first 6 months, but then came up with 2 World Champions. This are the realities of badminton... We are used to it...

We will not back down from supporting our players no matter what! [...mmm, except if Taufik gets beaten 4-21, 3-21 by a 3rd-tier player, then most probably we become furious! ]

It's better to learn from mistakes now and hope Kido/Hendra will be stronger after this painful lesson and show us they can win the Gold next year!

Yeah, next year's Olympics is going to be sooo cool! By that time all the top pairs and players would have competed against each other so many times in the various Superseries and Gold GP events that they can remember their opponents strength and weaknesses in their sleep...

Don't count out Luluk-Alven yet... They are still world #8... and in any given day, they can beat the top pairs as well... [hint: 2007 Japan Open win agains KKK-TBH]

 

[Krisna]

Ok, I admit I don't know why this tournament is called "kachang puteh"? Doesn't it mean kacang putih [in Indonesian] or white peanut?!? What's wrong with white peanuts again? They're delicious!

 

[robin7]

There are always some sour talks from the losing fans. Too bad. A loss is a loss and a win is a win whether it is 7-star tourneys or "kacang putih" tourneys. Player(s) can lose the match but can never lose the lesson.

Some die-hard fans have already prepared the excuse for the loss even before the match started.

A smart fan should always accept the truth and take it gentlemanly whether losing or winning. Sour talks are so not gentlemenly, so to speak.

You know who you are.

Move on. Prove it in the next tourney.

 

[Yojimbo]

For MS it may be kacang putih as LD and LCW are absent but not that kacang putih as Taufik is playing.However, I don't think it is kacang putih for the MD as the top pairs are participating.

 

[Han]

Ok, I admit I don't know why this tournament is called "kachang puteh"? Doesn't it mean kacang putih [in Indonesian] or white peanut?!? What's wrong with white peanuts again? They're delicious!

In Malaysia, "Kachang Puteh" mean something insignificant and easy to obtain ... I may be wrong since I left Malaysia for almost 25 years ago, my Bahasa is rusty
Anyway, I wrote it for the fun of it, not intended to dis-credit Gold Series, if Taufik get offended, please apologize for me.(I already assume Taufik win just to ease the tension between me and BadMania )

 

[Han]

For MS it may be kacang putih as LD and LCW are absent but not that kacang putih as Taufik is playing.However, I don't think it is kacang putih for the MD as the top pairs are participating.

Thanks you for the rescue brother

 

[abedeng]

We will not back down from supporting our players no matter what! [...mmm, except if Taufik gets beaten 4-21, 3-21 by a 3rd-tier player, then most probably we become furious! ]

INA supporters has less to worry about Taufik's performance now, since he had a child, his performance was very consistent and the hunger is back. I'm not counting the World Championships, of course, maybe that time Taufik is just adapting to fatherhood and didn't have enough rest, helping to change diapers and making baby milk in the middle of the night ...... Simon is improving and Sony just needs to keep away from injury.

Same goes for INA MD/XD/WD, they are back among the top. Though to be frank, I expected better from Kido/Setiawan yesterday, surely even with lack of form they can at least make proper returns of serve and Kido's smashes should not be too far off target.

This Macao Open is heartwarming for MAS supporters, we got our top two MD battling for the title and WCH's brave effort through injury was very inspiring. Despite his age, WCH is about the only MAS player bar LCW that can be competitive against the world's top guns. Which is both good and bad, good to see an old warhorse beating the crap out of younger opponents, bad that MAS own youngsters haven't even reached his level, much less support LCW.

 

[Temasek Green]

In Malaysia, "Kachang Puteh" mean something insignificant and easy to obtain ... I may be wrong since I left Malaysia for almost 25 years ago, my Bahasa is rusty
Anyway, I wrote it for the fun of it, not intended to dis-credit Gold Series, if Taufik get offended, please apologize for me.(I already assume Taufik win just to ease the tension between me and BadMania )

Ooooops...!!! BC room temperature now goes above chat room temperature,hope it will coool down.

 

[Temasek Green]

INA supporters has less to worry about Taufik's performance now, since he had a child, his performance was very consistent and the hunger is back. I'm not counting the World Championships, of course, maybe that time Taufik is just adapting to fatherhood and didn't have enough rest, helping to change diapers and making baby milk in the middle of the night ...... Simon is improving and Sony just needs to keep away from injury.

Same goes for INA MD/XD/WD, they are back among the top. Though to be frank, I expected better from Kido/Setiawan yesterday, surely even with lack of form they can at least make proper returns of serve and Kido's smashes should not be too far off target.

This Macao Open is heartwarming for MAS supporters, we got our top two MD battling for the title and WCH's brave effort through injury was very inspiring. Despite his age, WCH is about the only MAS player bar LCW that can be competitive against the world's top guns. Which is both good and bad, good to see an old warhorse beating the crap out of younger opponents, bad that MAS own youngsters haven't even reached his level, much less support LCW.

Ahhhh..!! now going down back to normal chat room temperature 21 deg. Cels. Coooooool buddy cool.

 

[badMania]

Same goes for INA MD/XD/WD, they are back among the top. Though to be frank, I expected better from Kido/Setiawan yesterday, surely even with lack of form they can at least make proper returns of serve and Kido's smashes should not be too far off target.

As I wrote earlier before anyone jumping to the conclusion that we INA fans didn't accept the loss. I REITERATE: KKK/TBH were simply the better pair yesterday. Sigit Pamungkas also analyzed the match well when he said that the quality of serves and balls of the MAS pair were simply more superior! The INA pair simply had no answer to them

I was disappointed that Kido/Hendra DID NOT GIVE their true performance yesterday, but, that is badminton...u win some, u lose some. I did congratulate MAS fans as both their doubles pairs have done well, didn't I? I give credit when its due.

 

[zqloy]

Finally reached home after the Macau trip.

As expected, Kido/Hendra indeed lost to KKK/TBH in an anti-climax match It was clear that the INA pair could not overcome the mental barrier of having not won against the MAS pair and this affected their style from the start of the first set. As with previous matches against KKK/TBH, Kido/Hendra again let them establish a healthy lead which was difficult to overturn and too many times they were let down by their own unforced errors

The second set was even more difficult to watch and it reminded me of the second set of the Chinese-Taipei Open Final, only this time, Kido/Hendra's role was reversed...they were at the receiving ends. Lots of uncharacteristic errors and very poor performance from Markis Kido. He looked tense from the start and that affected the INA pair's rhtym. The MAS pair wrapped up the second set without even breaking a sweat

Indeed, this is probably Kido/Hendra's WORST performance against a non-INA pair for quite a while. Sigit Pamungkas immediately gave a prep talk after the match and he gave a very detailed analysis of the match. The INA pair simply did not appear confident of winning the match and could not execute their plan. The key thing is the next time these 2 pairs meet again, come to the court with a NOTHING TO LOSE attitude. Anyway, they are already the WORLD CHAMPION!

So, congrats to the MAS camp for a brilliant performance in the Men's Doubles today!

Badmania, mind posting a review on the match btw CTF/LWW vs Cai/Fu?
Sounds like a good match, its a pity we cant watch it

 

[badMania]

In Malaysia, "Kachang Puteh" mean something insignificant and easy to obtain ... I may be wrong since I left Malaysia for almost 25 years ago, my Bahasa is rusty
Anyway, I wrote it for the fun of it, not intended to dis-credit Gold Series, if Taufik get offended, please apologize for me.(I already assume Taufik win just to ease the tension between me and BadMania )

Dude, I didn't even know there's a tension among us
We were not even arguing abt anything

 

[badMania]

So glad I make so many "friends"(subject to individual interpretation) in this chat room Keep up the good work on your pre and post games analysis, I truly enjoy reading them.
I think there's doubt on Markis's mind each time when he plays against KKK/TBH for whatever reason.

I agree. I don't know why too...he looked tense and probably fearful of the MAS pair? Remember, they haven't won against KKK/TBH I look forward to these pairs' next meeting and I hope it won't be an-anticlimax match again