im not sure why MK/HS is still not regarded as a main threat to everyone... everyone is just thinkin tat oh KKK/TBH will win.. or Feng Yun or LYD/JJS.. perhaps is because of their still kind of inconsistent showings.. maybe they win few tourneys in a row, they can actly create a fan network bigger than feng yun's n KKK/TBH's.. haha... anyways all da best for them.. they look set be the next super star already..I do agree that Tony/Candra's best years are not now.BUT, they still show that they are one of the top pair in the World, clincing one Super Series title this year.
Candra/Sigit vs Tony/Halim's match during the AE Final 2001 was certainly explosive...those are the days.
Kido/Hendra have to prove that they are not a flash in the pan...and time is on their side. For them to be considered a really world class pair (in the league of Candra/Sigit or Tony/Candra), they have to WIN the All-England, some Super-Series titles, help INA regain the Thomas Cup and hopefully either an Olympics Gold or Asian Games Gold. There's still a lot of homework...but...I still have confidence in them.
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KKK TBH FOREVER!!!
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easily Koo/Tan![]()
im not sure why MK/HS is still not regarded as a main threat to everyone... everyone is just thinkin tat oh KKK/TBH will win.. or Feng Yun or LYD/JJS.. perhaps is because of their still kind of inconsistent showings..
im not sure why MK/HS is still not regarded as a main threat to everyone... everyone is just thinkin tat oh KKK/TBH will win.. or Feng Yun or LYD/JJS.. perhaps is because of their still kind of inconsistent showings.. maybe they win few tourneys in a row, they can actly create a fan network bigger than feng yun's n KKK/TBH's.. haha... anyways all da best for them.. they look set be the next super star already..![]()
..perhaps the jury is still out with Kido & Setiawan, eventhough they are the current World Champions. And one could wonder why? Perhaps because they haven't won tourneys and titles **consistently enough**. Sure, the WC and the recently ended CTO gave them their deserved titles. But perhaps, what people/fans/critics are clamoring for is if they can achieve the same level of performance, tourneys in and tourneys out, months in and months out, say, reaching the Finals or Semis in every tourneys, they participate in, for a lengthy period of time. Whilst at the same time garnering more titles, just like their predecessors....Yes, it might sound like a tall order being put on them, but hey, if that's what the people/fans/critics are looking for, then it's no more satisfying than to prove those people/fans/critics wrong...So far, they've lived up to all expectation and if they can somehow sustain their performance (and win this Macau Open title), and the subsequent tourneys, then perhaps there will be less "whispers of doubts" in their abilities..And in a way, this goes to other young MD pairs also, yes, incl. KKK & TBH..It's not that Kido/Setiawan are inconsistent, more about lack of titles before suddenly winning World Championships. Much like Rasmussen/Paaske, Champions in 2003 who haven't really won anything meaningful before and after the World Crown. Most World Champ winners have won quite a few titles before landing the biggie .....
..perhaps the jury is still out with Kido & Setiawan, eventhough they are the current World Champions. And one could wonder why? Perhaps because they haven't won tourneys and titles **consistently enough**. Sure, the WC and the recently ended CTO gave them their deserved titles. But perhaps, what people/fans/critics are clamoring for is if they can achieve the same level of performance, tourneys in and tourneys out, months in and months out, say, reaching the Finals or Semis in every tourneys, they participate in, for a lengthy period of time. Whilst at the same time garnering more titles, just like their predecessors....Yes, it might sound like a tall order being put on them, but hey, if that's what the people/fans/critics are looking for, then it's no more satisfying than to prove those people/fans/critics wrong...So far, they've lived up to all expectation and if they can somehow sustain their performance (and win this Macau Open title), and the subsequent tourneys, then perhaps there will be less "whispers of doubts" in their abilities..And in a way, this goes to other young MD pairs also, yes, incl. KKK & TBH..![]()
..what tjl_vanguard's and abedeng's (and many other people's/fans'/critics') points in their posts is the "sense" that Kido & Setiawan did not appear in as many later rounds(SF and Finals respectively), in comparison to KKK & TBH and/or FHF & CY, eventhough they had won as many titles as KKK & TBH and/or FHF & CY. The list of titles, shown above, esp. garnered by CY & FHF (which is nice for reference guide) could also show that they are "not as dominant" as people/fans/critics thought. But perhaps it is their consistency in appearing in the later rounds (Semis & Finals), of each tourney(s), which "stands out" and left a mark, on people/fans/critics impressions, that they are more "dominant"...more "consistent"...more "of a threat"..I would disagree with regards to the lack of titles before winning the WC. They have won the 6* Indonesia, HKG and China Opens in 2005 and 2006. Esp in China Open 2006, they beat Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen and Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun in the Semi and Final respectively. They have proven their credentials, its only a matter of time when they will land the World Championships.
So....does that mean that Fu/Cai is also inconsistent during 2004-2006?
if they can achieve the same level of performance, tourneys in and tourneys out, months in and months out, say, reaching the Finals or Semis in every tourneys, they participate in, for a lengthy period of time.
If this is what is considered consistency...I would say that Kido/Hendra are pretty consistent (esp in the last 2 years).
2006: 2 QFs (losing to CTF/LWW and Clark/Blair) in ABC and WC; 1 SF (losing to Tony/Candra in Korea Open) and 1 Runner-Up (losing to again Tony/Candra in Indonesia Open).
The only unexpected loss was to Hendri/Hendra in the first round of Singapore OpenOther bad showing include the R32 loss to Clark/Blair (again). Note that they participated in only 8 GP events last year and 1 invitational tourney.
Record: 37-8 (2 losses to Clark/Blair and Tony/Candra, 1 loss to Hendri/Hendra, 1 loss to KKK/TBH, 1 loss to Choong/Lee, 1 loss to Fu/Cai)
Fu/Cai lost 10 times last year.
This year's record so far:
2 QFs (losing to Jung/Lee in Korea SS and KKK/TBH in Indonesia SS), 3 SFs (losing yet again to KKK/TBH in Malaysia SS and Chong/Lee in Singapore SS and that dubious loss to Luluk/Alvent in Japan SS), 1 Runner-Up (losing to Fu/Cai in China Masters SS).
The only early round loss was that unlucky R16 loss to Han/Cho in the All-England SS.
Record so far (including yesterday's match): 34-7.
Both KKK/TBH and Fu/Cai lost 6 times this year.
nice debates so far... between ctjcad and badmania..
those are better than my today breakfast![]()