More HK open pics

GGsally said:
Hello NP,

I do appreciate you for your understanding and of course your acceptance of the TRUTH be told, but I only know how excited Fans can be which is why I tell my Fans to respect every other Artists and I really won't respect them as my fans if they miscontrue or disrepect other Artists. Obviously you are a kind and big hearted person, but I want to voice this out not for the purpose of my own reputation or name but because I hope this person will learn a valuable lesson about other peoples feelings, and ask himself, what can he gain by miscontruing a situation to the malicious degree that he has resulted in? Of course he is only one person but it only takes one to be disruptive or destructive. IF he cares so much about his idol, then I can only say, if Xie were to see what he thinks and wrote, she would literally fall off her rocker in shock. :eek:

I find it rather amusing that Red would say I didn't stand up to greet his Idol. I didn't get up, 1st because there was no reason to (I certainly don't expect ANYone to get up for ME) 2nd, I had no idea she was heading my way until she actually got to me. I too, was surprised that the guy climbed over everyone to me and asked if Xie can ask me something. I think people even moved out the way so Xie could get to me. Immediately I bent forward to pull her over to me cos she was standing on the second tier below me. If I were to stand I would be 5 feet taller than her. I could barely hear her cos she is so painfully shy and I'm sure she felt awkward coming to look for me too. I kept going "huh?....huh?" to hear what she was saying.

I certainly wouldn't have such a creative thought to ask ANYone to come all the way to the audience section and CHAT with me? I have no idea where his mind travelled to it's deepest depths to accuse me. About WHAT would I chat with her at that moment when the FINALS are going on? I came to WATCH the games. That's what I was there for!

I just find it mind boggling that some people, BESIDES people that berate people for a living, would make such defamatory accusations, WITHOUT even having so much as an aquaintance with those people, or being right smack there with his ears WAY UP listening in on the conversation. ALL Red SAW was her walking up to talk to me and he can fabricate his own miserable FAIRY TALE! THAT is quite UNbelieveable and furthermore UNacceptable by my standards as a human being... not as a public figure. I was just a plain old badminton enthusiast, sitting as an audience member, minding my own business like everyone else, enjoying a thoroughly entertaining badminton tournament. H aha.. from now on I'll have to look out for this culprit at the games....

Anyways, I do hope he will learn something positive from this.

Regards, Sally
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Dear Sally,

Greetings! I am appalled by those who do not know how to respect others and more so by those who believe that they have a right to judge every public figure they meet; athelete or singer. By virtue of your status, you can perform many acts of charity and kindness. Nonetheless, I cannot comprehend why wouldn't the media focus on such benevolence. Is it so difficult to accept the sincerity of a person? Is it morally crippling to allow a singer to enjoy a badminton game peacefully and to talk to anyone in good faith?

I totally understand your situation because everyone needs time of their own to do things in private without having the worry of being watched constantly. Imagine one is being CCTVed all-year-round. :eek:

I am really sorry that you have to go through all these mess. I do KNOW you are a GOOD person. :D

Have a nice day and with fond regards,

Wendy
 
She is Xie ;) .

ggeinstein said:
Dear Red,

Hi there! :confused: I seriously don't understand why you would even equate Xia to being a "prosti...". Poor girl. She is an athlete, of course. But she is human, very much like yourself. Does walking up to someone for a chat in the midst of a badminton game make her one? You are indeed very subjective. Even if you are, perhaps you shouldn't impose your views on others.

Sally Yeh is JUST a singer. Well, you are JUST a photojournalist so, does that make you MORE important? ;)

Good day.

Yours,
Wen
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red00ecstrat said:
did u remember how xie xangfang got there cheung? chan chi choi (the hk coach) brought her there!
i think chan shouldn't do that. xia is an athlete not a prosti....! anyone who wanna see her. just see her on court! u may talk to her if she's nearby! but send somebody to bring her somewhere for a chat. it's just not appropriate! besides, sally yeh wasn't that important! she's just a singer. that's all!
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Red,

First of all, there is no need to say Prosti... Be a man and spell it out especially when you are calling the #1 woman's singles in the world that word. Just Come out and say it. Dont be shy !! Based on your post, you are not, so dont try to appear nice and civilized when you are obviously not. Thank you.


Second of all, If you ever read some of my previous posts I usually talk about proof being crucial when you are accusing another of doing or committing something in-appropriate. In your post, there is just no proof. A simple observation in favor or not in favor of the parties involved simply does not warrant the language and words you used agsint them. Do you know anything about giving people the benefit of the doubt ?? I cant believe what you can get out of a simple meeting between a star badminton player and a star singer!! Next time I strongly suggest unless you were part of that conversation in that meeting you keep your visious speculations to yourself and your incredibly rude assumption to yourself. I have read your posts and you are obviously not living in the same world as the rest of us as you think people need to get up from their seats to show respect while overlooking the fact that if Sally stood up she would be looking into space and probably cant hear a word Xie said in an ongoing badminton Finals match.

Xie and Sally,

I been in USA most of my life so I know how difficult it is to promote badminton. I really appreciate your love for the sport and I hope Red has learned the facts in this meeting and I feel that we have really "troubled" you Sally to even have to come to this forum and defend yourself.
 
Thank you everybody for all of the contributions.

There seems little further to add and I hope we can all remain friends despite our misunderstandings:)

Let's move away and back to our beloved badminton:):)
 
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hello ms.yeh,

my bad! i just shouldn't make any silly assumption. i apologize for that.
in fact, i should had gone straight to the point that i didn't feel comfortable with the way you met xie. to be honest ms. yeh. personally i didn't hate you and xie wasn't one of my favourite player. you were right. that's none of my business.
u know. i didn't start a threat, post a picture and make an accusation against you. i took more than 10gb of images of the hk open but none of them was you and xie at that scene. not a single one of them! coz i wasn't a paparazzi. i was sick of that word and sick of what they had done! believe it or not. i had totally forgotten about that scene until i saw a picture that'd reminded me my feeling on that day once again.
alright, you said that you certainly don't expect anyone to get up for you and if you were to stand you would be five feet taller than xie. ok, fair enough. you got your points. but did i say u gotta stand "laser straight" for whole time? i wonder what's gonna happen if the same thing that happen to you once again. but this time the one who stand in front of you is president hu jintao or mr. donald tsang.
no matter who wanna meet who. getting up a bit for a second with a handshake is only basic stuff. i will do it when i meet a ceo of an international company. i will also do that when someone introduce me a salesman of a local department store. it isn't hard to do. is it?
finally, i apologize once again for my silly assumptions and those inaccurate thinking that annoying you in the past few days.
i do hope u will keep on supporting badminton central and keep on promoting such kinda great sport.

regards

red "the simple man"
 
No problem...

Hello Red,

I appreciate that you understand my concern to justify the situation in this forum regarding your misunderstanding. I'm glad you realise that sometimes things can get very twisted out of proportion if you don't know the facts properly. The worst thing is that other people will believe what you write or say and it becomes harmful. This is how idle gossip gets started and it is very hurtful. I'm sure you didn't realise that, but I hope you do now.

To address the standing issue. I HAVE met Donald Tsang many times and many other dignitaries or important people during my career. If we are in a formal situation where we are having a meeting or a formal introduction at a dinner, there will be a need to stand up. Usually the women don't stand, only the Men if it's a dinner. I believe you will find this rather traditional fact in any etiquette book. I was brought up the old fashion way. I do stand up for my Parents friends at anytime though cos they are "the elderly". The only occassion women stand is usually when everyone is already standing, in a reception or cocktail. When I met Prince Phillip we did stand because that is a line up where he shook hands and greeted and everyone is standing and also it is protocol for Royalty. When I met Donald Tsang, he stood up to greet me cos I walked to my table which his seat was beside mine and he was already sitting at the table. He stood but his wife did not which is the norm. When I met Tung Kin Wah it was in my friends house and he plopped down on the couch in front of me and I did not stand, I just said HI. I didn't know them but we met thru friends dinners so no need for such formality. I just had dinner with Jackie Chan and Jacky Cheung last week, Jackie Cheung was already there when I arrived so he didn't stand up, Jackie Chan came in late and no one stood up. I'm not saying it's wrong that you stand though. Just sometimes not that necessary. I can tell you if Hu Jin Tao came to look for me in the badminton stands, I wouldln't even pay attention to him cos I'd be so engrossed in the games. It was only Xie cos I like her so much that I pull her over. One of the guys in the photos, the one where Cheung says looks like he's having fun. He's Indian with the green suit. That is Punch Gunalan. He is the Vice President of IBF international and he gave me my seat. He came up to greet me and I teasingly told him he was blocking my view.

In Xie's case, to be honest I would not stand. Not because of who I am, but it is not a neccessity and it was a very awkward situation being that I was already very embarrassed that other people were looking. If I were to stand up, ALOT of people would stare and that would disrupt THEIR viewing of the game, and probably embarrass Xie too because she looked terribly uncomfortable walking up the stairs. I'm sure if there were some other way she could have gotten what she needed she would not look for me. Maybe the question you should ask is, why didn't XIE request that I go down to the sidelines to greet her? I think the answer is... she was being polite by coming to me to ask for help. In any case Red, she needed a favour which she thought I could help her with, and I did. It's really as simple as that. If you can keep your thinking simplistic, I think you would have much more peace within yourself.

Anyways, good luck with everything and hope alot of goodness comes out of this for you. Since you are in HKG maybe we will meet on the courts one day. In that circumstance I'm sure I might be standing. :D

I'm sorry others have to put up with this personal issue but I do believe integrity and morale plays an important role in sports too. One must have a good mental mind to play or understand a good game. I'm told sportsmanship is above all the most important element to get to the top, so, to have good sportsmanship we must all start out with healthy charactaristics. Hope you will agree. :p

Regards, Sally
 
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Dear Jumpalot (good name!)

Xie and Sally,
I been in USA most of my life so I know how difficult it is to promote badminton. I really appreciate your love for the sport and I hope Red has learned the facts in this meeting and I feel that we have really "troubled" you Sally to even have to come to this forum and defend yourself.

>>OH yes, I know.. but I have to take baby steps. Jacky Cheung is playing now but it took me 5 years to talk him into it! When Singers do concerts at HKG Coliseum, everyone sends flowers, but I send Badminton racquets! I just hope they will get started! I'm just trying to do what I can to promote it more to get everyone to play now. That is a start. I'm working with a Club called GGBC Golden Gate Badminton Club in San Francisco too. My friend is founder and so far it is very successful since it opened in June 11, 2005. It is a fantastic club and I urge you all to visit if you go that way. We have a site in this forum too which is at USA WEST, under PLACES TO PLAY. That is how I know of BC. Also the website www.ggbadminton.com. Please go take a look. I'm such a badminton groupie and fanatic. I will do whatever I can do tell everyone the benefits of Badminton. I get VERY excited when I play. So much so I can't sleep at night thinking of my shots and what not. :D

Sally
 
Hi Sally,

Punch Gunalan is a malaysian and he was once a great badminton player in his old days. Most of all, he was the team manager who managed to help malaysia getting back the Thomas Cup in 1992.

Is it true that you are getting a post in IBF later?

Have a nice day!
 
Ibf

Well..there are plans but I won't announce anything until it becomes factual. I want to make sure there is something I can do. I'm not good with Politics so I really don't know how suitable I am for this type of thing.

Sally
 
badMania said:
I was trying to get a seat for the final, unfortunately, it was SOLD OUT!!!
It was disappointing to see that the stadium eventually had empty seats that were not sold to fans. I know of a few more badminton fans that could not get seats for the final. :cool:
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Yes, my friend, you are a fellow Singaporean who queued just behind me when I was getting my tickets for the QF and SF but was told that the Finals tickets were all sold out. How disappointed I was then but luckily another BF'er who came all the way from Brisbane, managed to get a HK$90 ticket for me through an acquaintance he made at the QE Stadium itself.

As you probably know, I bought the cheaper tickets for both sessions of the QF and SF for a total sum of HK$100 and this, together with the cost of the Finals ticket, were relatively more expensive than less than S$20 for the season ticket for all matches we paid for the Aviva Singapore Open 2005.

Another point to note is that whereas the Singapore Open charged on a whole day basis, the HKO charged separately for the two sessions for each day. Maybe they should get more sponsors to bring the price down to enable more badminton fans to watch at least the earlier rounds, since the Finals were all taken up much earlier, in part due to company sponsorship for clients, quite a number of whom did not turn up, unfortunately!

As Sally has said, the QE Stadium is rather viewer friendly in that it is relatively small in size and capacity. Even the cheaper ticket seats are not too far different from the more expensive ones as everyone is quite close to the centre court. However, I suppose in trying to put in more seats into a small space, there is little room left for walking between seats and not a few spectators resorted to climbing over the railings to get out.

In comparison, our Singapore Indoor Stadium is more comfortable and can hold much bigger crowds. The Finals of the Aviva Open this year saw a record attendance of over 8,000. So it will not be too far-fetched to shift the venue to the larger (and more comfortable?) HK Coliseum one day as suggested by Sally.

But Sally, you are really a badminton fanatic and we are all proud of you and hope you will continue to enjoy being an ambassador for badminton to especially your 'famed' friends. :)
 
Loh said:
Yes, my friend, you are a fellow Singaporean who queued just behind me when I was getting my tickets for the QF and SF but was told that the Finals tickets were all sold out. How disappointed I was then but luckily another BF'er who came all the way from Brisbane, managed to get a HK$90 ticket for me through an acquaintance he made at the QE Stadium itself.

As you probably know, I bought the cheaper tickets for both sessions of the QF and SF for a total sum of HK$100 and this, together with the cost of the Finals ticket, were relatively more expensive than less than S$20 for the season ticket for all matches we paid for the Aviva Singapore Open 2005.
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Yup...I was standing behind you and was in fact looking for you after I bought those tickets. Too bad, I could not find you! Wel, I am actually still an Indonesian citizen, but have been in Singapore since I was young. That's why I said that I am from Singapore too :D

Actually, the view from my seat is also good (HK$20). I could watch all the matches. The only disadvantage is that I have to walk all the way up and when I switched seats during the match, the stewards pointed out that those seats were HK$50, so, I had to go back to my own seats.

I was disappointed to see them charging tickets for separate sessions, even during the first few rounds. As far as I know, tickets for the Indonesia Open and probably Singapore Open were free to public up to the quarter-final stage. Then, you do have to pay for one session a day. Is that correct?

The television coverage in HK was disappointing as well because they only have like 2 hrs telecast at TVB Pearl during the semis and final. I had to go to Shenzhen to watch the Finals at GDTV. I know I can use pplive, but, for the final, I would rather watch the matches without any delay.
 
GGsally said:
Hello Red,

I appreciate that you understand my concern to justify the situation in this forum regarding your misunderstanding. I'm glad you realise that sometimes things can get very twisted out of proportion if you don't know the facts properly. The worst thing is that other people will believe what you write or say and it becomes harmful. This is how idle gossip gets started and it is very hurtful. I'm sure you didn't realise that, but I hope you do now.
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hi ms.yeh,

i guess i was so eager to express my feeling and anger without realizing the consequences. because of that, i m gonna make some adjustments for myself and i hope u understand. i m not that evil :D .


GGsally said:
Anyways, good luck with everything and hope alot of goodness comes out of this for you. Since you are in HKG maybe we will meet on the courts one day. In that circumstance I'm sure I might be standing. :D
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if i get that chance. i will surely get down on my knees before u stand up. ;)

best regards

red
 
Thank YOU Red!

i guess i was so eager to express my feeling and anger without realizing the consequences. because of that, i m gonna make some adjustments for myself and i hope u understand. i m not that evil :D .

if i get that chance. i will surely get down on my knees before u stand up. ;)
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Hi Red,

I think you are a great person and it is the highest of character traits to show your strength as you have. Pls don't get up for me!! Just love and play badminton and let's all try to let others know why why why :o we love this sport so much! See you very soon!

Sally

BTW. How does everyone get that little quote box in the replies? I don't know how to do that la...
 
GGsally said:
BTW. How does everyone get that little quote box in the replies? I don't know how to do that la...
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you just click the reply box which is found slightly to the right and below the post. The small box to the right of the 'edit'.
 
Cheung said:
you just click the reply box which is found slightly to the right and below the post. The small box to the right of the 'edit'.
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OH good! It worked! THANKS! I just don't edit anything from the original text right?

Sally
 
GGsally said:
OH good! It worked! THANKS! I just don't edit anything from the original text right?

Sally
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Hi Sally,
I'm TC Ong from Malaysia. I'm a badminton fanatic too like u..
i would be thinking of all the hits and shots to use in my next game at night prior to any game with my frens. Its difficult to get ppl to play nowadays.
I'm surprise that u manage to talk Jacky into it!!;) How did u do it?:eek:
Any advise that i can learn from u? Good Luck and All the best.

Btw: i also idolize u since i'm in my teen.

regards,
TC Ong
 
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