semi finalists distributions

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2cents

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last Japan Super Series, China got 4 titles with 7 representations in semi. Astonishingly, there was 0 from Korea which used to be thought the 2nd power house just after China. (red indicating wining the title)
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]MS
[/TD]
[TD]WS
[/TD]
[TD]MD
[/TD]
[TD]WD
[/TD]
[TD]XD
[/TD]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tapei
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Denmark
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malaysia
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Indonesia
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Germany
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HongKong
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Japan
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]India
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]20
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Now at this Denmark open:

[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]MS
[/TD]
[TD]WS
[/TD]
[TD]MD
[/TD]
[TD]WD
[/TD]
[TD]XD
[/TD]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]Change
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Denmakr
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Korea
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Thailand
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Japan
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malaysia
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]-1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Indonesia
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]-1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HongKong
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]India
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tapei
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Germany
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-2
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Korea made the biggest improvement, got 3 in the final 4 while 0 in JO. Thailand, China and Denmark also improved while Tapei, Germany, Malaysia, Indonesia, Hong Kong and India got less reprentations.

If we count the title only,
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Titles
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tapei
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Only China and Tapei got the titles at JO.
Unfortuantely, Tapei will end up 0 title at DO, while China still dominates, I guess China will grab 4 titles again. Malaysia, Denmark or Korea could have the chance to take the 5th.

If assume title = 4 poins, finalist = 2 points, semi = 1 point, then the total points at Japan open:
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]MS
[/TD]
[TD]WS
[/TD]
[TD]MD
[/TD]
[TD]WD
[/TD]
[TD]XD
[/TD]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]19
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tapei
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Denmark
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malaysia
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Indonesia
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Germany
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HongKong
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Japan
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]India
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]40
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Denmark open predictions/observations:

China will do better in WS, WD and XD.
Korea will surely be better in all doubles.
Denmark better in MD and WD, with home court advantage.

Improved associations: Korea, Denmark, Thailand
Weakened associations: Taipei, Germany, Hong Kong, India

Have to see how well China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan perform next 2 days.
 
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thanks Kwun and Alan.

Alan your spreadsheets are awesome.

badadum, I am not a regular follower for the tournaments, sometime try to datamine some insights from results at amateur level. The good news is that we have Alan providing all year round analysis and intelligence at expert professional level.

Here's the smi numbers after semi. (Red=won already, Orange=possible win)
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]MS
[/TD]
[TD]WS
[/TD]
[TD]MD
[/TD]
[TD]WD
[/TD]
[TD]XD
[/TD]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Denmakr
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Korea
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Thailand
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Japan
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malaysia
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Indonesia
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]20
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

If we count the titles only,
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Titles
[/TD]
[TD]Average
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China
[/TD]
[TD]2-5
[/TD]
[TD]3.5
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malaysia
[/TD]
[TD]0-1
[/TD]
[TD]0.5
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Denmark
[/TD]
[TD]0-1
[/TD]
[TD]0.5
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Korea
[/TD]
[TD]0-1
[/TD]
[TD]0.5
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Here're the points calculations: (winner = 4, finalist=2, semi=1) (Red=won already, Orange=possible win)
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]MS
[/TD]
[TD]WS
[/TD]
[TD]MD
[/TD]
[TD]WD
[/TD]
[TD]XD
[/TD]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]Average
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China
[/TD]
[TD]2-4
[/TD]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[TD]2-4
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]3-5
[/TD]
[TD]20-26
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Denmakr
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]2-4
[/TD]
[TD]5-7
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Korea
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2-4
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]4-6
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malaysia
[/TD]
[TD]2-4
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2-4
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Japan
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Thailand
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Indonesia
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]40
[/TD]
[TD]40
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Last edited:
Unfortunately, China seems still overwhelmingly dominating the badminton.
Suprisingly, Denmark is the 2nd power nation in badminton. Even 4 representations.
Clearly, Malaysia has only LCW to depend on.
Luckily, LYD can play 2 categories for Korea.
Hopefully, Indonesia can still be in the game.
Obviously, Taipai and Japan have become powerhouses now.
 
2cents, I'm sure it's a lot of work to compile a YTD version. Thanks for this abbreviated one;it'll be a good base to build on for future tournaments. To no one's surprise CHN dominates.
 
madbad said:
2cents, I'm sure it's a lot of work to compile a YTD version. Thanks for this abbreviated one;it'll be a good base to build on for future tournaments. To no one's surprise CHN dominates.
Click to expand...

thanks, actually, Alan has done that already.
 
YTD Winners (up to 2011 Japan Open)


[TD="class: xl24"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]MS[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]WS[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]MD[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]WD[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]XD[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]Total[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]27[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]MAS[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]INA[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]KOR[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]THA[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]TPE[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]JAP[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: xl26"]Total[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]40[/TD]

(YTD winners up to 2011 Japan Open, excerpt from AlanY's super spreadsheet)


AlanY said:
the information is readily available in
http://www.mediafire.com/?mf3pzz2rt9p31

download the latest SuperSeries file in the excel folder. goto the 'Winners' sheet, for YTD just select all the other results (rows 21-74) and delete. table at the top will update for YTD
Click to expand...

Above table is YTD winners (up to 2011 Japan Open), based on AlanY's superb spreadsheet: 'SuperSeries v5.08.xlsm' ... Thanks AlanY for sharing it with us :)

So far only eight countries/associations gain the chance to taste the sweetness of being champion... and that position will not yet change at this DO SSP.


With regard to 2cents' SF tabulations,
in Japan Open SS, the semi finalists came from 9 countries/associations; in Denmark Open SS Premier only 7 countries/associations make the presence.
From these two tournaments alone, one may derive that the higher the level of the tournament (the higher its value), the more 'exclusive' the participants in the SF (i.e. less countries/associations make it).
 
Your summary is absolutely right. Terre is a China factor. China sent no one or second tier stringers to lower level tournaments, so there are three or four countries winning titles, such as India super series. China sent partial best players to regular ss, so china takes 4 out of 5 most of time. At most prestige world championship, china sends all with all efforts, they took all five titles. In Olympics, suffering from the quotes limitation, china has to let others to share 5 golds

kelana said:

[TD="class: xl24"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]MS[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]WS[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]MD[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]WD[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]XD[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]Total[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]27[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]MAS[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]INA[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]KOR[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]THA[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]TPE[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: xl25"]JAP[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl25"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: xl26"]Total[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27"]40[/TD]

(YTD winners up to 2011 Japan Open, excerpt from AlanY's super spreadsheet)




Above table is YTD winners (up to 2011 Japan Open), based on AlanY's superb spreadsheet: 'SuperSeries v5.08.xlsm' ... Thanks AlanY for sharing it with us :)

So far only eight countries/associations gain the chance to taste the sweetness of being champion... and that position will not yet change at this DO SSP.


With regard to 2cents' SF tabulations,
in Japan Open SS, the semi finalists came from 9 countries/associations; in Denmark Open SS Premier only 7 countries/associations make the presence.
From these two tournaments alone, one may derive that the higher the level of the tournament (the higher its value), the more 'exclusive' the participants in the SF (i.e. less countries/associations make it).
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