some pictures....

speCulatius

speCulatius

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... from the second German league. Unfortunately, the hall was very very dark, so I had to go above my cameras limits. There's some more on the album (should be linked via pictures). What do you think?

If someone can tell me how to delete an image from an album, please tell me (one is there twice).

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Given the bad lighting these are really good pics, thumbs up! I think ISO3200 is still borderline acceaptable on a D7000.

Which lens did you use?
 
Sigma 50-150/2,8; pretty good at 2,8 already; still quite compact (the version without optical stabilizer); not produced anymore, I think

ISO3200 on a D7000 is acceptable to view on a (FullHD) sceen or for prints around 10cm*15cm, but not much more. I was surprised to have that little light in a hall used for first and second Bundesliga.
 
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Good shots!

High standard of play. I have to go iso 4000 in a local sportshall in HK. Lighting is usually the last thing to be considered for a match.
 
speCulatius said:
Sigma 50-150//2,8; pretta good at 2,8 already; still quite compact (the version without optical stabilizer); not produced anymore, I think

ISO3200 on a D7000 is acceptable to view on a (FullHD) sceen or for prints around 10cm*15cm, but not much more. I was surprised to have that little light in a hall used for first and second Bundesliga.
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Stabilisation is generally not used for action photography. The rule of thumb is exposure time faster than 1/focal length. So for example, for a focal length of 150mm, it is not recommended to use stabilisation if the exposure time is set at 1/150 second or faster. For fast action shots, often times the stabilisation can cause some motion blur instead. :(
 
Thanks to all of you.

For FX cameras, this still is not too bad, for a DX camera something like 1/(1,5*focal length) is better, considering the resolution of modern cameras, 1/(2*focal length) might not even be safe (looking at single pixels). Actually, I just looked at the D850 (FX) and with more than 40 million pixels, even for FX cameras the rule of thumb should be adjusted....

For badminton, the exposure time cannot be short enough enough if you want to freeze the action, so this rule of thumb will not be the limiting factor and thus stabilisation is not needed. I just mentioned it, because the newer version of that lens does have it, but it also grew to the size of a 70-200/2.8 which doesn't make sense to me. ;)

@Cheung
ISO 3200 or 4000 is not that big of a difference, maybe I should have done that, too. I was surprised by the bad lightning since it was a match in the second German league and the first league matches of the same club are played there, too. Even some halls I play in are brighter than this one.
 
The effect of stabilisation, especially for action shots, is highly overrated. All you need is light, light and then some more light. I've inheritated a 20+ years old Nikon 80-200/2.8 (without stabilitsaion of course) which produces sensational pictures on my D610 (FX). If only the autofocus wasn't soooo slooooow and is wasn't sooo heavy.... :confused:

I feel like good badminton pictures need to have a maximum possible freezing effect to really come to life. I figured that you have to get the exposure down to less than 1/500 or even 1/800. Good thing with the FX is that you can go up to ISO 6400 and still get acceptable noise. An example:

DX, F5, 1/160s, ISO 1600:
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Quite some motion blur, especially in the leg. It just doesn't have that "FREEZE!" feeling to it.

FX, F2.8, 1/800s, ISO 6400:
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...now that's better!
 
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Love the photos, and also all the others in the album!

I'm quite ashamed though that I didn't correct the display colors on the TVs until afterwards. That awful pink? It's really red (a little bit brighter than the jerseys), with the TV trying to make it seem "more natural".
 
there are some nice shots in the album. you have a knack for good timing, capturing some unique action.

the camera setting is ok. technical side of setting the ISO and shutter speed is the easy part of badminton photography. the hard part is seeing and anticipation of good moments.

also i suggest do some generous cropping of the shots if deemed necessary. if the surrounding of the player action isn't contributing to the composition and context of the photo, crop it out. otherwise it will only serve as distraction.
 
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