Sonia Cheah

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  1. limsy

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    let say if she successfully finish the degree.
    she play until 24 or 25 and feel that she couldnt make it,she retired and try to find a office work.
    at this age,she dont have any working experience,a spm graduated office boy who work since 18 will have 7 years of working experience. does degree give her any advantage?no
    social look at your ability and experience,not a cert.
    in chinese,we call it 两头不到岸
     
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    she could sue for discrimination...
     
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    the umemployment rate of degree/diploma student isnt low in malaysia.
    well,let time to prove who is correct.
     
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    I agree with you... just look at our past players or those who struggle for years in the international arena. Once they quit badminton, very likely they will stuck with being a coach or other badminton related work. You may say that this is their passion but I think this is the only thing they are good at. Unless you are like DLCW, who gain some good network because of his status, otherwise...

    I mean, just look at their english... Chinese cant speak proper english. How do you expect them to work competitively with those having a proper education. Not that I discriminate them for not being able to speak proper english but that is the truth. If we are just talking about Sonia here, then maybe she has advantages here since she can speak good english. IMHO...
     
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    but you can not use your experience as an office boy to apply for a, let say, accounting position for example....

    even me, i have almost 4 years experience in building/energy consultant, but when i apply for management consulting position, the company rate me as an analyst, just like a fresh graduate...
     
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    I don't think that is reflective. There are other M'sian players who do degrees. Joanne Quay (works in BWF), I think two former players (forgot their names) are studying medicine, An Li Peng studied at University of Manchester, Ng sisters at Loughborough University. Soo Beng Kiang worked in banking, I believe. Anita Raj Kaur and Kenn Lin have studied for degrees.

    I know of one ex-HK player who did a degree part time whilst on the tour, graduated, now doing a part time Masters degree and fitting in some coaching and working full time as well! Nothing but admiration and respect for that sort of character.


    The first job is the toughest - get through that, prove yourself to do a good job and then you can move on to the next step.

    I would say the majority of players would go into coaching because it is the thing they know the best. However, doing a degree is definitely an option if the person wants it enough.

    What if the english is poor? Let's see, my friend just told me about his wife, chinese educated malaysian, University in Malaysia so mainly speak Bahasa and Mandarin chinese. Of course, the english is behind. She is now reporting directly to regional CEO of an international insurance company. But she works very hard to do her job well.
     
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    she is good in study,but without practical experience.

    not sure about other country
    but in malaysia,there is plenty of reason why the unemployment rate is high(degree or diploma)
    if 23 years old fresh graduate cant find a job because they dont have working experience
    will company hire sonia at the age of 25(random guess) with no working experience despite having a degree?
    of course it is different story if she were to be self-employed;)
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    hope this discussion wont distract bcer from her badminton career.:D
     
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    Do you know that poor command in english is one the top reasons why many graduates are not landing jobs? It is also one of the top criteria what companies are looking for in fresh graduates...
     
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    i partly agreed.
    but most of the situation is they quit badminton to study-joanne quay,lim ps,lim kenn,anita kuar in ur example.
    only a few who study and playing at the same time.

    this is chicken and egg question
    not doing well so study or study at the same time so wont doing well?
    i pick study at the same time so wont doing well.
    if they might not reach let say top 10 by full concentration,will they do better after they start study?
    u seek an escape route before a war start(thus not fully prepared),will u try/did your best in the war?
    lim kenn or anita kuar did the wiser choice to me. so they only playing club/league or some ic now.
    just my personal opinion.:)
     
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    Graduates from which Universities? ;)
     
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    The point here is not from which universities but poor command in English...
     
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    graduated from any university in malaysia will face same problem unless they are good at the very beginning
    that's why the rate of unemployment is high.
     
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    Thanks to Msian education system...
     
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    So you disagree with limsy


    The answer is yes because she has good reason for graduating at 25 rather than 23. And if a potential job applicant shows decent communication skills, then why shouldn't they get a job. No point having an extremely clever applicant that cannot communicate with the interviewers. If you can get a clever person with good communication skills in one package, then even better. :)
     
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    Let's not go into the disjointed nature of the system and misguided policies. That's another debate.
     
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    Nope, on the other hand, I disagree with you...
     
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    I re-read Limsy's post.

    Does "any university" include those who graduated overseas or does the sentence refer only to graduates of "universities in Malaysia"?
     
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    Let's steer the thread back to be about Sonia Cheah and her badminton career! I want to know more about her and the thread needs photos, results, achievements and info! :D

    What does the Su Ya stand for? Sometimes I see only Sonia Cheah and sometimes it says Sonia Cheah Su Ya. Does all Malasian names have these extensions? Her sister has another one.
     
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    Her name is Cheah Su Ya... Cheah is the family name, Su Ya is her name. Some Chinese will have another Christian name or English name, which in this case is Sonia... her sister is Lydia..
     
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    and as for pictures and bios etc.. just hold on to your horses.. some kind soul will post, soon enough...
     

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