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  1. gamelessx25

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    You cannot compare Badminton to Football simply because the scoring conditions are different. The football team(s) that were ordered to "draw" would be trying their BEST not to lose the ball to the other team.

    Where as our 4 ladies pairs were ordered to "lose" which put them trying their BEST to lose and play into a farce of each doing the equivalent of scoring on their own net.

    That's the only measure we have in terms of efforts put forth. Doing nothing vs scoring own goals.
     
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    I think ppl here either intentionally or unintentionally paying too much attention to the details. The key issue is, IOC/BWF accused players "not trying best". So, be it "not to win", "not to win much", "get a tie only", "intend to lose", etc, that are all the same, because they are all "NOT TRYING to best to WIN".

    To me, the situation is like there are 2 robbers, one got $5000, while the other got $2000. Of course, you can say the one with $5000 may conduct more serious crime, and deserve the more punishment. However, they are still BOTH at fault.

    My problem is, this incident is the only one being magnified to be "fault", while others are masked as "normal", "better than this one", "not as bad as this one"... Give me a freaking break...
     
  3. gamelessx25

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    I agree with the above post. But it seems society is okay with some faults as long as it doesn't cross their moral/normal boundaries. In the perfect sense of fairplay, IOC should indeed DQ all teams/sports that doesn't "try their best" but it seems in these other sports, it's okay not to win to secure a better draw.

    Soccer ex. 1. Drawing a game to get a more favorable draw - deem okay and strategic.
    Soccer ex. 2. Scoring own goal to lose a game for more favorable draw - not okay, life time ban of the player.

    Badminton ex. 1. Half ass trying and not win a game while other team wants to win. (JPN vs Taipei) - deemed okay since no one saw a deliberate game throwing.
    Badminton ex. 2. CHN vs KOR + KOR vs INA. All teams wanted to lose, players are told to lose or go home. Not a good place to be and they sucked at acting and the way they ignored the official sealed their fates.
     
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    Athlete Country Year Gold Silver Bronze Total
    [TABLE="class: cms_table_wikitable cms_table_sortable cms_table_jquery-tablesorter"]
    [TR]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Gao Ling[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2000–2004[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]4[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Kim Dong-moon[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] South Korea (KOR)[/TD]
    [TD]1996–2004[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]3[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Gil Young-ah[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] South Korea (KOR)[/TD]
    [TD]1992–1996[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]3[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Lin Dan[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2008–2012[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Zhao Yunlei[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2012[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Zhang Ning[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2004–2008[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Zhang Jun[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2000–2004[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ge Fei[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]1996–2000[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Gu Jun[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]1996–2000[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Cai Yun[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2008–2012[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Fu Haifeng[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2008–2012[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Lee Hyo-jung[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] South Korea (KOR)[/TD]
    [TD]2008[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Yang Wei[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2000–2004[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Bang Soo-hyun[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] South Korea (KOR)[/TD]
    [TD]1992–1996[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Park Joo-bong[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] South Korea (KOR)[/TD]
    [TD]1992–1996[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Lee Yong-dae[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] South Korea (KOR)[/TD]
    [TD]2008–2012[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Yu Yang[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] China (CHN)[/TD]
    [TD]2008[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ha Tae-kwon[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] South Korea (KOR)[/TD]
    [TD]2000–2004[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Susi Susanti[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] Indonesia (INA)[/TD]
    [TD]1992–1996[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Lee Chong Wei[/TD]
    [TD][​IMG] Malaysia (MAS)[/TD]
    [TD]2008–2012[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


    Before the sun finally sets to mark the closure of the Olympics 2012, another quick wrap up of what had been achieved in this edition:

    China has completed a clean sweep of gold medals (repeated fact)

    Except Zhao Yunlei, the highlighted names are the players who made history by reach two successive gold medal matches for all five categories.

    Lee Chong Wei became the first Malaysian and fourth nation representative to be included in the medal tally.

    Lin Dan and Zhao Yunlei both stand a great chance of topping the table above with the most number of gold medals should they both compete in RIO 2016 to overtake Gao Ling.
     
  5. Nict_26

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    May i add taufik to the above table? :)
     
  6. edwin

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    Isn't the above table only for players who have won multiple medals in the Olympics? Taufik only won a gold in 2004.
     

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