What is still lacking in LCW?

I actually second this opinion. LCW indeed looked confused and reluctant when facing LD after OG. I guess this is because the performance of LD in OG totally exceeded LCW's expectation. Now LCW, when on court, has no idea what LD can do to his shots. I think LCW will do better and better as he plays more and more against LD, along the way establishing a new "model".
i doubt lcw can play whatever style he feels like. Like in business, blaming the workers for the company mess is just scapegoating. Bolehians and diehards are going around in circles and pulling out their hairs. Accountability and resolution start from the top. Don't keep blaming poor showing on lcw. You guy should ask at 'what is still lacking in lcw's MANAGEMENT?'.
 
would that cut down on the bolehing:confused::D

no la... should keep up the bolehing to encourage LCW to always play his best.... althought a LCW at his best form would still be a class below a LD at this best.

Amongst the currently active players, i guess only TH could be able to match up with LD.... if he start to work hard now (yet we all knows this may not happen due to TH's character now...)

in my opinion, what LCW is short of LD is talent although with same or more hard working. A simplified analogy (like it or not):

best LD (with talent + hard work) >> best LCW (with less talent + hard work) > TH now (with talent + but no hard working)

and

LD (talent + hard work) > LCW (less talent + more hard work)

and

TH (talent + if hard work) may = LD (talent + hard work)

... pity that PG is older now...

LCW could steal a match or two from LD when LD is not at his best, but LD would always have a significantly better head to head overall...
 
Well hahaha LCW is too arrogant...he thinks he is the best in the world but no...well this might be a heartbreak to the bole fan but LCW would never win any major championship...he will come 2nd but will never win trust me and somehow this makes me soooo happy
 
no la... should keep up the bolehing to encourage LCW to always play his best.... althought a LCW at his best form would still be a class below a LD at this best.

Amongst the currently active players, i guess only TH could be able to match up with LD.... if he start to work hard now (yet we all knows this may not happen due to TH's character now...)

in my opinion, what LCW is short of LD is talent although with same or more hard working. A simplified analogy (like it or not):

best LD (with talent + hard work) >> best LCW (with less talent + hard work) > TH now (with talent + but no hard working)

and

LD (talent + hard work) > LCW (less talent + more hard work)

and

TH (talent + if hard work) may = LD (talent + hard work)

... pity that PG is older now...

LCW could steal a match or two from LD when LD is not at his best, but LD would always have a significantly better head to head overall...
lol, using your mathematical reasoning:

LYB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misbun + Mulyo + Li Mao + etc

LOL
 
Well hahaha LCW is too arrogant...he thinks he is the best in the world but no...well this might be a heartbreak to the bole fan but LCW would never win any major championship...he will come 2nd but will never win trust me and somehow this makes me soooo happy

LCW arrogant? From where did you get this idea? State some examples please.
 
LCW arrogant? From where did you get this idea? State some examples please.

From where?? well does he sign autograph like Taufik did??? no he doesn't..is he friendly??? well from my experience in AE last yr and this yr well he is not a very nice guy...after the game against Lin Dan I actually waited for Chong Wei and tell him....

well I am happy that u lost....perhaps if u are a little more humble u'd be a btter player
 
From where?? well does he sign autograph like Taufik did??? no he doesn't..is he friendly??? well from my experience in AE last yr and this yr well he is not a very nice guy...after the game against Lin Dan I actually waited for Chong Wei and tell him....

well I am happy that u lost....perhaps if u are a little more humble u'd be a btter player

I think you do your fellow Indonesians a disservice with your immature attitude and intolerance.

Are you referring to me personally when you say "u"? I did not lose. LCW did. By general consensus, it's widely known and accepted that LCW is a humble person. If signing autographs is your yardstick for being a "nice guy", then the majority of badminton players, nay sports personalities, are jerks. :cool:
 
I think you do your fellow Indonesians a disservice with your immature attitude and intolerance.

Are you referring to me personally when you say "u"? I did not lose. LCW did. By general consensus, it's widely known and accepted that LCW is a humble person. If signing autographs is your yardstick for being a "nice guy", then the majority of badminton players, nay sports personalities, are jerks. :cool:

well thats what I said to CW...I waited for him in the exit and I said that word for word.....
 
I think you do your fellow Indonesians a disservice with your immature attitude and intolerance.

Are you referring to me personally when you say "u"? I did not lose. LCW did. By general consensus, it's widely known and accepted that LCW is a humble person. If signing autographs is your yardstick for being a "nice guy", then the majority of badminton players, nay sports personalities, are jerks. :cool:

Actually, he said he told LCW those word.
Just ignore the kampungan boy from Makassar. He has ax to grind with MAS and always try to stir up trouble between MAS - INA.
 
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I actually second this opinion. LCW indeed looked confused and reluctant when facing LD after OG. I guess this is because the performance of LD in OG totally exceeded LCW's expectation. Now LCW, when on court, has no idea what LD can do to his shots. I think LCW will do better and better as he plays more and more against LD, along the way establishing a new "model".
Looking through your post, perhaps Lee Chong Wei's indeed had that problem.
Like kkk/tbh, chong wei's problem is inside him.
What the Bolehian waiting for is for the players to break the wall.Forget the Great the Wall Of China first, it's inside them.
Before a tournament, say yes to yourself.
 
Actually, he said he told LCW those word.
Just ignore the kampungan boy from Makassar. He has ax to grind with MAS and always try to stir up trouble between MAS - INA.

Wow did I abuse u personally??? u are now abusing me personally....I was just attacking LCW not the MAS....I am attacking Malaysian shuttlers not Malaysian or individuals....
 
LCW is not lagging and LD is not unbeatable.
LD has the advantage because he has a dream draw which means he is much,much fresher than LCW.He has a qualifier for R1,training match with teammate in R2,non-opponent for QF(who only got 9 points from LCW in SPO08;LD's more generous to JP,giving him 10+ points) another training match with teammate in SF.In SF,CHN thought so highly of LCW they dared not take the risk of playing another 10 mins to properly finish the match.CHN obviously believed even LD needed that benefit of being 10 mins fresher to defeat LCW.Maybe not but they were not taking chances.
EXpect the same scenario in Swiss Open where LD has another dream draw and LCW may have it even tougher to reach the final.Be reasonable in your expectations but hope for the best and you will be less disappointed.

This is some of the most biased that I have read in a long time. LCW didnt really have a tough road to the finals either. Playing Ville Lang in the quarters in such a big tournament is close to a walkover for a player with abilities like LCW. He did meet Taufik and beat him comfortable, but thats one tough match/opponent before reaching the finals (not counting Li Yu since he at the moment havent achieved anything major).

I think its time to look into the mirror and recognize that LD is just one step ahead of LCW and 2-3 steps ahead of the likes of Taufik, Gade, CJ, Bao etc.
 
Wow did I abuse u personally??? u are now abusing me personally....I was just attacking LCW not the MAS....I am attacking Malaysian shuttlers not Malaysian or individuals....

LOL, you call a reflection of your behavior an abuse??? You stated yourself you're attacking LCW, but now you complaint when some harsh word are levied against you?? And what is MAS shuttlers if not individuals?? :rolleyes:

madbad called your attitude & intolerance immature and a disservice to INA, why didn't you start claiming he abuse you too?

You have a long running history of badmouthing MAS (sometimes the player, sometimes the country, but always MAS). Want to argue against that now? :rolleyes:
 
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This is some of the most biased that I have read in a long time. LCW didnt really have a tough road to the finals either. Playing Ville Lang in the quarters in such a big tournament is close to a walkover for a player with abilities like LCW. He did meet Taufik and beat him comfortable, but thats one tough match/opponent before reaching the finals (not counting Li Yu since he at the moment havent achieved anything major).

I think its time to look into the mirror and recognize that LD is just one step ahead of LCW and 2-3 steps ahead of the likes of Taufik, Gade, CJ, Bao etc.
thx you for the 3rd party unbiased viewpoint.
After the 08 OG, when LD was absent in tournaments (except 08 HKO) until the 09 AE, tournament MS titles were won by peter gade, soni kuncoro, Taufik, LCW, and some other lesser players which showed there aren't a clear dominate player behind LD. The rest are just distance 2nd, 3rd, etc. which more or less can be grouped altogether.. LCW didn't win until SS final, i think PG had picked up 2 titles (from memory). Also, on those tournaments where Chen jin and BCL have limited participation, they went there probably unprepared just to have china presence as instructed by LYB. If LCW is truly a close 2nd behind LD, LCW would and should have wrap up most of the titles during this LD-free period. LCW did not do that.
 
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