which ws era is stronger (strongest)?

which ws era is stronger (strongest)?

  • 2012

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • 2016

    Votes: 6 40.0%

  • 2021

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Total voters
    15
vozer here

vozer here

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2012: trio wang, li xue, saina, tine...
2016: wang s, wang y, li xue, marin, saina, rat, tai, no, aka, pv, sun...
2021: tai 6 packs, marin after acl, chen y, pv, no, aka, an, he...

for ms, i doubt between 2012 and 2016 but sure current era is the weakest
 
missed stamina war and psychological war before the new scoring system was implemented. watching badminton at that era is like watching thriller movie
 
vozer here said:
2012: trio wang, li xue, saina, tine...
2016: wang s, wang y, li xue, marin, saina, rat, tai, no, aka, pv, sun...
2021: tai 6 packs, marin after acl, chen y, pv, no, aka, an, he...

for ms, i doubt between 2012 and 2016 but sure current era is the weakest
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2021 for me. You're sure about including PVS in this era? :) Because post 2019 she has been underperforming to such an extent that it doesn't reflect the level (and hers as well in fact) of this 2021 WS era. Unless she goes against all odds for Tokyo and podium it.
 
LenaicM said:
2021 for me. You're sure about including PVS in this era? :) Because post 2019 she has been underperforming to such an extent that it doesn't reflect the level (and hers as well in fact) of this 2021 WS era. Unless she goes against all odds for Tokyo and podium it.
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She defeated Akane Yamaguchi in ALL ENGLAND and also defeated He Bingjiao in their last meetings. So, if they are included, then i must say, there is nothing wrong in mentioning her name.
 
LenaicM said:
2021 for me. You're sure about including PVS in this era? :) Because post 2019 she has been underperforming to such an extent that it doesn't reflect the level (and hers as well in fact) of this 2021 WS era. Unless she goes against all odds for Tokyo and podium it.
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Sindhu never performed well outside the majors but was always there for majors. She did win bronze and was slightly unlucky she had to play tai. Had she gone to the final and played CYF, she’d have definitely won the gold.


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Women’s badminton is in its golden phase since 2013 ish with many playing styles and nationalities. I don’t see it ending anytime soon either.

Men’s it’s definitely weak at the moment.


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vozer here said:
2012: trio wang, li xue, saina, tine...
2016: wang s, wang y, li xue, marin, saina, rat, tai, no, aka, pv, sun...
2021: tai 6 packs, marin after acl, chen y, pv, no, aka, an, he...

for ms, i doubt between 2012 and 2016 but sure current era is the weakest
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I feel current era is the strongest for MS. Just have a look at current French open's participant's list. Every player has a potential to beat all the other players (except maybe for Axelson). LD, LCW never got such fierce competition from all the players in the draw. Axelson, Momota have more diverse, tougher competition to deal with as compared to what LD, LCW had. LD, LCW usually got healthy competition semi final onwards. Momota, Axelsen have to fight it out right from the round 1.
 
paroxysmal said:
I feel current era is the strongest for MS. Just have a look at current French open's participant's list. Every player has a potential to beat all the other players (except maybe for Axelson). LD, LCW never got such fierce competition from all the players in the draw. Axelson, Momota have more diverse, tougher competition to deal with as compared to what LD, LCW had. LD, LCW usually got healthy competition semi final onwards. Momota, Axelsen have to fight it out right from the round 1.
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yeah maybe tier 2 is better than rio but tier 1 is only vik, a few years ago was mo. Tier 1 has no competition. Rio era, tier 1 has lin, lcw and chen L
 
counting 20 ss+/wt750+:

all england 2015 to australia 2016 (before olympic rio): 7 champs
+ chen L 6 titles
+ lcw 5
+ mo 4
+ lin 2
+1: hans, sony, kidam

malaysia open 2018 to all england 2020 (before olympic tokyo and before covid time): 8 champs
+ mo 12 titles
+ chen L 2
+ 1: lcw, gin, vik, chou, shi, lin

number of champions are close. Tier 1's titles are close, 13 (chen L+ lcw+ lin) vs 12 (mo). But the era with 3 players in tier 1 must be more diverse than just 1 player in tier 1
 
vozer here said:
counting 20 ss+/wt750+:

all england 2015 to australia 2016 (before olympic rio): 7 champs
+ chen L 6 titles
+ lcw 5
+ mo 4
+ lin 2
+1: hans, sony, kidam

malaysia open 2018 to all england 2020 (before olympic tokyo and before covid time): 8 champs
+ mo 12 titles
+ chen L 2
+ 1: lcw, gin, vik, chou, shi, lin

number of champions are close. Tier 1's titles are close, 13 (chen L+ lcw+ lin) vs 12 (mo). But the era with 3 players in tier 1 must be more diverse than just 1 player in tier 1
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That 18-19 is the weakest era. There was no one to stop momota.

Viktor injured (not sure if he could’ve done anything).

Shi yuqi injured

Kidambi (useless)

Ginting (the only one but damn inconsistent)


CTC was ranked 2!!!!


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WS 2016 looked a lot more flashy with CM,TTY, RI bringing some beautiful and fiercy badminton on court. Tbh I'm a little bit late to badminton so I'm not really able to evaluate the pre 2016 era, but I think, that TTY & RI, as one of the youngest ws top players and especially CM as a fiercy fighter, takes WS more in an athletic and faster pace direction (establishing short serves etc.), but maybe this happened a few years earlier.

WS 2021 is dominated by CYF with CM injured (and out of top 5, I fear) and TTY thinking too much about retiring, is more of an efficient era. AY and NO are very efficient players too. ML is more or less grinding into the top 10 (much more tournaments needed compared 'natural' talents like TTY) and ASY (although grinding) is still seeking a way to reach top 5 (which will happen she is still a teeny). PV is still not up to her former self, HBJ is struggling to reach top 5.

But Covid19 did have a heavy impact on the (badminton) world and hopefully 2022 will bring us many more tournaments.
 
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