Who will qualify ?

AlanY said:
with the first round of the HKO almost completed I'm going to stick my neck out for the predictions.

the SSF qualifiers are;


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[TD]LEE Chong Wei[/TD]
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[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD]Kenichi TAGO[/TD]
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[TD]Denmark[/TD]
[TD]Jan O JORGENSEN[/TD]
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[TD]Indonesia[/TD]
[TD]Tommy SUGIARTO[/TD]
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[TD]Thailand[/TD]
[TD]Boonsak PONSANA[/TD]
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[TD]China[/TD]
[TD]WANG Zhengming[/TD]
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[TD]Hong Kong[/TD]
[TD]HU Yun[/TD]
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[TD]Sony Dwi KUNCORO[/TD]
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[TD]WANG Shixian[/TD]
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[TD]India[/TD]
[TD]Saina NEHWAL[/TD]
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[TD]Korea[/TD]
[TD]BAE Yeon Ju[/TD]
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[TD]Korea[/TD]
[TD]SUNG Ji Hyun[/TD]
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[TD]China[/TD]
[TD]LI Xuerui[/TD]
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[TD]Thailand[/TD]
[TD]Porntip BURANAPRASERTSUK[/TD]
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[TD]Chinese Taipei[/TD]
[TD]TAI Tzu Ying[/TD]
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[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD]Minatsu MITANI[/TD]
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[TD]Indonesia[/TD]
[TD]Hendra SETIAWAN[/TD]
[TD]Mohammad AHSAN[/TD]
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[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD]Hiroyuki ENDO[/TD]
[TD]Kenichi HAYAKAWA[/TD]
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[TD]China[/TD]
[TD]LIU Xiaolong[/TD]
[TD]QIU Zihan[/TD]
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[TD]Korea[/TD]
[TD]KO Sung Hyun[/TD]
[TD]LEE Yong Dae[/TD]
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[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD]Hirokatsu HASHIMOTO[/TD]
[TD]Noriyasu HIRATA[/TD]
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[TD]Denmark[/TD]
[TD]Mathias BOE[/TD]
[TD]Carsten MOGENSEN[/TD]
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[TD]Malaysia[/TD]
[TD]Kien Keat KOO[/TD]
[TD]Boon Heong TAN[/TD]
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[TD]Korea[/TD]
[TD]KIM Ki Jung[/TD]
[TD]KIM Sa Rang[/TD]
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[TD]China[/TD]
[TD]WANG Xiaoli[/TD]
[TD]YU Yang (F)[/TD]
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[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD]Misaki MATSUTOMO[/TD]
[TD]Ayaka TAKAHASHI[/TD]
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[TD]China[/TD]
[TD]MA Jin[/TD]
[TD]TANG Jinhua[/TD]
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[TD]Denmark[/TD]
[TD]Kamilla RYTTER JUHL[/TD]
[TD]Christinna PEDERSEN[/TD]
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[TD]Indonesia[/TD]
[TD]Pia Zebadiah BERNADETH[/TD]
[TD]Rizki Amelia PRADIPTA[/TD]
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[TD]Thailand[/TD]
[TD]Duanganong AROONKESORN[/TD]
[TD]Kunchala VORAVICHITCHAIKUL[/TD]
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[TD]Korea[/TD]
[TD]JUNG Kyung Eun[/TD]
[TD]KIM Ha Na[/TD]
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[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD]Reika KAKIIWA[/TD]
[TD]Miyuki MAEDA[/TD]
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[TD]ZHANG Nan[/TD]
[TD]ZHAO Yunlei[/TD]
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[TD]Indonesia[/TD]
[TD]Tontowi AHMAD[/TD]
[TD]Liliyana NATSIR[/TD]
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[TD]Denmark[/TD]
[TD]Joachim FISCHER NIELSEN[/TD]
[TD]Christinna PEDERSEN[/TD]
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[TD]China[/TD]
[TD]XU Chen[/TD]
[TD]MA Jin[/TD]
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[TD]Malaysia[/TD]
[TD]Peng Soon CHAN[/TD]
[TD]Liu Ying GOH[/TD]
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[TD]Indonesia[/TD]
[TD]Markis KIDO[/TD]
[TD]Pia Zebadiah BERNADETH[/TD]
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[TD]England[/TD]
[TD]Chris ADCOCK[/TD]
[TD]Gabrielle WHITE[/TD]
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[TD]Thailand[/TD]
[TD]Sudket PRAPAKAMOL[/TD]
[TD]Saralee THOUNGTHONGKAM[/TD]
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This list can only be wrong if Schenk can blaze her way to Hongkong Final and make Tai Tzu Ying out
 
fd16n said:
This list can only be wrong if Schenk can blaze her way to Hongkong Final and make Tai Tzu Ying out
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Almost. Schenk only needs the 6420 points from making the semi-finals to pass Tai, who won only 3600 points this week. That's hard enough, though, considering that she needs to beat Wang Shixian to do it.
 
Nope, no chance for Ajay Jayaram to qualify. He would not have made it even if he made it to the finals of the HK Open.
 
pathan said:
Nope, no chance for Ajay Jayaram to qualify. He would not have made it even if he made it to the finals of the HK Open.
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That's not true. If he had made the finals, he would have had 43830 points to current #8 Hu Yun's 43180. Even Marc Zwiebler had a shot that would have necessitated a Hong Kong Open title.

Anyway, it's a moot point. With the English loss today, even the extra MD spot is decided, in the event that Ko/Lee do not choose / get forced to participate.
 
If I'd heard GC right during the HK Open MS final today, she was saying that had Chen Long just appeared to play a few points before retiring in R1, he would have still qualified for the SSF.

Now it's purely wishful thinking that some kind souls might decide to withdraw and make way for Chen Long to get in. Or else, expect LCW, after nearly 3-weeks rest and in front of his home crowd on homeground, to walk all over every single one of his opponents all the way to the final.

For Intanon's absence, I feel that Porntip is worthy of taking her place to challenge the Chinese; it would be great to have them both in , but that seems highly improbable.
 
Justin L said:
If I'd heard GC right during the HK Open MS final today, she was saying that had Chen Long just appeared to play a few points before retiring in R1, he would have still qualified for the SSF.
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Also incorrect. Alan's numbers are correct, of course. Chen Long would have had 42760 if he had lost in the 1st round. Hu Yun finished at #8 with 43180. Also, at the time, Chen didn't know so many chasers would lose so early. At the time, even with Chen getting the additional 2220 points, 7 shuttlers (all the way down the list to Zwiebler) still could have caught him even though a few of them would have needed to win the tournament.

Now it's purely wishful thinking that some kind souls might decide to withdraw and make way for Chen Long to get in. Or else, expect LCW, after nearly 3-weeks rest and in front of his home crowd on homeground, to walk all over every single one of his opponents all the way to the final.

For Intanon's absence, I feel that Porntip is worthy of taking her place to challenge the Chinese; it would be great to have them both in , but that seems highly improbable.
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I guess it's not impossible but perhaps improbable. Since the BWF started fining players for not going, there have been a few cases of players withdrawing to cede their spot to another: Saina Nehwal, was the first when injured in 2010, and Reiko Shiota, who had retired before the finals in 2012. Last year, Jang Ye Na also got injured and pulled out by the injury happened 3 days earlier and I believe she still went, but didn't play. They'd already confirmed and it was too late to make a substitution. 5 others had withdrawn in time, though, so it can happen.
 
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AlanY said:
yes, but they are both a few days behind BadmintonCentral's.
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Ok boss. I have some doubt.. Would they group something like 'odd' series and 'even' series..? I mean ..1,3,5,7 and 2,4,6,8 or in some other format??

If they group something like this :

WS will look like

Grp A

1. Wang Shixian
2. Bae Yeon Ju
3. Li Xuerui
4. Sung Ji Hyun

Korea and China has 2 players each.

Grp B

1. Saina Nehwal
2. Portnip
3. Minatsu Mitani
4. Tai Tzu Ying

Four countries represent Group B. Am i right??
 
scorpion1 said:
Ok boss. I have some doubt.. Would they group something like 'odd' series and 'even' series..? I mean ..1,3,5,7 and 2,4,6,8 or in some other format??
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Other.
AlanY said:
normally they will place players from the same country in different group.
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Not intentionally.
rosid said:
I don't think so. If I recall correctly, both Zhang Nan/Zhao Yunlei and Xu Chen Ma Jin was in the same group in 2011 edition.
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They will separate players or pairs only if they are first and second seeds. They then have a draw of the two 3/4 seeds and then they choose the groups for the remaining 4 at random. In Taipei in the 2010 edition (in January 2011), the local officials were rejoicing because the formidable Chinese pairs ended up in the same groups, away from the Taiwan pairs. In fact, this happened in all 3 cases where it could happen and only the two Wangs in WS were separated, that being guaranteed by their seeding. In MS, MD, and WD, there were only one or zero seeded Chinese. However, the two Chinese pairs in MD and WD still ended up in separate semi-finals and in the WD, this facilitated in an all-Chinese final.
 
event said:
Other.Not intentionally.They will separate players or pairs only if they are first and second seeds. They then have a draw of the two 3/4 seeds and then they choose the groups for the remaining 4 at random. In Taipei in the 2010 edition (in January 2011), the local officials were rejoicing because the formidable Chinese pairs ended up in the same groups, away from the Taiwan pairs. In fact, this happened in all 3 cases where it could happen and only the two Wangs in WS were separated, that being guaranteed by their seeding. In MS, MD, and WD, there were only one or zero seeded Chinese. However, the two Chinese pairs in MD and WD still ended up in separate semi-finals and in the WD, this facilitated in an all-Chinese final.
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Thanks [MENTION=8145]event[/MENTION].. So, they have a separate format to choose the players for each group except the 1st and 2nd seeds.. Cool..
 
as per BWF's latest ranking list dated 28/11/2013;

the top 8 that not going are

MS2(CHEN Long)
MS3(DU Pengyu)
MS8(Tien Minh NGUYEN)

WS3(Ratchanok INTANON)
WS5(WANG Yihan)
WS8(Juliane SCHENK)

doubles are not that bad

MD2?(KO Sung Hyun/LEE Yong Dae)
MD8(LEE Sheng Mu/TSAI Chia Hsin)

WD8(JANG Ye Na/So Young KIM)

XD7(Praveen JORDAN/Vita MARISSA)
 
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AlanY said:
as per BWF's latest ranking list dated 28/11/2013;

the top 8 that not going are

MS2(CHEN Long)
MS3(DU Pengyu)
MS8(Tien Minh NGUYEN)

WS3(Ratchanok INTANON)
WS5(WANG Yihan)
WS8(Juliane SCHENK)

doubles are not that bad

MD2?(KO Sung Hyun/LEE Yong Dae)
MD8(LEE Sheng Mu/TSAI Chia Hsin)

WD8(JANG Ye Na/So Young KIM)

XD7(Praveen JORDAN/Vita MARISSA)
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Looks like Wang Yihan just sneaked in through the slightest opening she found pushing out TTY at the last moment or did she missed it? Whats the cutoff date?
 
gopalprasad said:
Looks like Wang Yihan just sneaked in through the slightest opening she found pushing out TTY at the last moment or did she missed it? Whats the cutoff date?
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unfortunately, only 2 players per country thus she wouldn't be going.
 
BWF update - The Qualifiers

MS - http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=520612&dl=1

1) Lee Chong Wei (MAS)
2) Kenichi Tago (JPN)
3) Jan O Jorgensen (DEN)
4) Tommy Sugiarto (INA)
5) Boonsak Ponsana (THA)
6) Sony Dwi Kuncoro (INA)
7) Wang Zhengming (CHN)
8) Hu Yun (HKG)

WS - http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=520613&dl=1

1) Wang Shixian (CHN)
2) Saina Nehwal (IND)
3) Bae Yeon Ju (KOR)
4) Porntip Buranaprasertsuk (THA)
5) Li Xuerui (CHN)
6) Minatsu Mitani (JPN)
7) Sung Ji Hyun (KOR)
8) Tai Tzu Ying (TPE)


MD - http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=520610&dl=1

1) Mohammad Ahsan/Hendra Setiawan (INA)
2) Hiroyuki Endo/Kenichi Hayakawa (JPN)
3) Liu Xiaolong/Qiu Zihan (CHN)
4) Ko Sung Hyun/Lee Young Dae (KOR)
5) Hirokatsu Hashimoto/Noriyasu Hirata (JPN)
6) Kim Ki Jung/Kim Sa Rang (KOR)
7) Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen (DEN)
8) Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MAS)

WD - http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=520611&dl=1

1) Misaki Matsutomo/Ayaka Takahashi (JPN)
2) Wang Xiaoli/Yu Yang (CHN)
3) Christinna Pedersen/Kamilla Rytter Juhl (DEN)
4) Ma Jin/Tang Jinhua (CHN)
5) Pia Zebadiah Bernadeth/Rizki Amelia Pradipta (INA)
6) Duanganong Aroonkesorn/Kunchala Voravichitchaikul (THA)
7) Reika Kakiiwa/Miyuki Maeda (JPN)
8) Jang Ye Na/Kim So Young (KOR)

XD - http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=520614&dl=1

1) Zhang Nan/Zhao Yunlei (CHN)
2) Tontowi Ahmad/Liliyana Natsir (INA)
3) Chris Adcock/Gabrielle White (ENG)
4) Joachim Fischer Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen (DEN)
5) Xu Chen/Ma Jin (CHN)
6) Chan Peng Soon/Goh Liu Ying (MAS)
7) Markis Kido/Pia Zebadiah Bernadeth (INA)
8) Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam (THA)
 
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