It is quite possible that i had a bad day when i last tried it, but when i last tried it, it wasnt as good as this time. This time was a lot better. It could also be possible that i have improved my consistency, i have been doing a lot of training on overheads and stuff, and a lot of consistency, so i dont rule it out. Is it at all possible that the ArcZ i tried the first time wasnt up to QC, because it didnt play as well as the one i tried last night. i havent seen the guy that i borrowed the ArcZ from last time for a while so it will be difficult to try his again, but i will have another go with the ArcZSTH next week, and if i am satisfied i will maybe get one. Btw babyface, did you buy 2 pieces of the limited ArcZ or two pieces of the normal ArcZ ?