Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

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  1. ctjcad

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    Perhaps..

    ..DLCW is to be selective. The thinking now for LCW is maybe: let's compete and go all out when LD is not playing (case in point this yr's Korea Open). By the time M'sia Open rolls around, most likely DLCW would have less stamina, thus if he loses or even pulls out, it's fine.
    Yes, it sounds like DLCW is being a cat, but that's just another way of DLCW seeing LD less and playing less than LD, yet at the same time DLCW still has a great shot of winning a tourney.

    Is the decision to play/not play entirely up to DLCW?
     
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    LD looks like being selective about competing but it's more likely he needs more time and efforts for tournament preparations.

    This year I doubt LD will compete two tournaments within a fortnight. And he will choose the second tournament to give him the 'fresher for tournament' advantage. Except for AE and CHN SS, of course. I doubt he will play in Swiss Open this year, but I may be wrong. (You can see just in 2009, all his SS are second SS ones except for AE and CM.)

    It's getting tougher for LD and CHN MS. The escort service is not as strong as before plus many of the young non-CHN, non-MAS MS are coming of age, with good chance of upsets (because they won't be in the CHN syllabus yet.)
     
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    You mean LCW chooses tournaments that LD is absent?
    How does LCW know which tournament LD would be in?
    If LCW wants to avoid LD, he would skip CHN and HK SS. Is that true based on past records?
    As it seems, LD may sign up for a tournament but not play, esp when the draw turned out tough , like HK09?

    Would be better if LD cut out the mouse behaviour, don't you think so?
     
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    when one is the best, of course he/she can be choosey. His cabinet is already jam packed with hardwares, why not be choosey? It is well forecasted by BF'ers here that LD real goal is shooting for the 2012 OG title. Competing in 2010, 2011 tournaments are just conditioning maintenance for him and winning some titles in between are just extra bonus to keep the sponsors happy.

    " I doubt he will play in Swiss Open this year, but I may be wrong."

    I like how u make prediction, by covering both ends. If LD plays in 2010 Swiss open, u r right, if he doesn't,u are right too, lol.

    Here is a better advice for those young and fresh coming of age non-chinese players, they should dump their coaches and go watch the Choi Ho Jin vs LD match on how to beat LD. Problem solved. lol.
     
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    as far as i anticipated/know
    player usually dont know the entry list(some player was surprise that i know they will participate in certain tournament when its weeks before the tournament)
    i doubt they know the link to download the entry list

    usually coach do the job after the draw is out,then just they get the draw and start to analysis+briefing to player and discus(and they usually only know about the player on their own half)

    player dont and wont know who withdrawed before the team manager meeting held before the tournament(unless those young player asking others country player via fb or msn)

    well,some player do know about tournament software,but ts usually update the withdraw/promote to main draw after the team manager meeting too.
    only ppl in bwf know who will participate before the entry list is out,do u think any asociation have spy inside bwf or OTHER COUNTRY ASOCIATION?:D

    so,i think it is almost imposible for lcw selecting tournament that ld didnt go;)

    as far as i remember,lcw never withdraw unless he get REAL injury/forced to withdraw(sea games case);)
     
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    hahaha, doctor advice can be persuaded or bought:p
    why not just say lcw was also being selective in playing certain tournaments?
    ex. SEA game prize was too small to be bother with. LCW is a money player lah.
     
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    hmm
    i doubt the young and fresh coming of age non-chinese players can beat lindan in mas open 2010(if he come),because,lindan shouldnt be tired tired tired tired and very tired at the very 1st tournament of 2010 season:)
    he should and would win will mas open 2010
    wow!
    i found this interesting,if lindan didnt 'let' chen jin win/chen jin didnt 'beat' lindan in ae 2008,he would have won his 1st back to back title in 2008 ae+swiss open :eek:
     
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    i think i am not that old and it just one month from now
    as far as i know
    acording to all the press in malaysia
    misbun is the one who want lcw to rest for sea games and not another way around
    doctor say ok to play before sea games

    how many certain tournaments can be example?
    maybe others bcer can tell u how much a gold medal in sea games worth($$),sorry,i didnt have info
    oh!
    i found that,lcw only skip 5 ss,and lindan won 1 of them(lindan skip 3 of that 5)
     
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    Why BAM, sponsors, friends and fans, etc..., are so happy for LCW

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    That's the point. The fact is LCW is World No.1. It is based on LCW's participation results which include his winning and losing outcomes. It is also based on his opponents' participation results (including their winning/losing outcomes).

    The world ranking system is actually a competition in itself. It is a contest.

    There are players who have participated in more tournaments than LCW, and players who have participated in less. No matter how they try to do it, they still cannot overtake LCW's No.1 position.

    That is why BAM, sponsors, friends and fans, etc..., are so happy for LCW.
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    What to do...what to do..???..

    - Yes, something to that effect.
    - He would know sooner or later. What LCW could do is to register for a back-to-back tourney and if LD appears in one of them, LCW would plan and focus on the one LD is not attending. Dato LCW would then either pull out or not play up to par in the other one.
    - That is past records. The idea for DLCW to pick and choose is for this yr and future (since DLCW also has his knee/leg injury to deal with).
    - LD bailed out of last yr's HK Open not simply because the draw was tough, but i believe he's not prepared/well rested. Even if the draw was not as tough, i believe he would not compete as well.
    - Whether "LD is better to cut out the mouse or cat behavior", the lad is planning it right. DLCW could follow in LD's footsteps or catwalk, if he wants to.:cool:
    ..you're kidding, aren't you, cooler??..:confused:
     
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    yup, u are right in this. why worry more? but the problem lies on those village minded fans, they are just maybe too jealous if i used the correct word:cool:;)
     
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    Who will benefit??..

    - My thinking is for the immediate future and future, not from the past (from last yr). And the data is not drawn from any tourney. The idea is for him to reverse that trend and only participate in tourneys not attended by LD. Hopefully that's crystal clear.

    - Well, either BAM prefer to still go the same route or change it. Not a difficult concept.

    - The idea is for DLCW to play in tourneys LD doesn't participate in; except for the major ones (AE, WC). It'll help DLCW in twofold. One, it'll not put more stress on his knee/leg. Two, it'll give him more chance to win more titles. So, either way, the fans will still get a taste of seeing either DLCW or LD perform. Yes, other non-MAS and non-CHN players will benefit.
     
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    Sidek as a terrific coach! have a look again his body language during the 08OG final, when LCW needed advises most he was clueless and look defeated. being a good player dont necessary is the making of a good coach but certainly wouldnt hurt. he wasn't one of the best when he was playing and his defense style of play (coaching) cannot and will not develop LCW as a more attacking minded player that I believe will push LCW another step further to win something BIG.
     
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    Good idea. Hopefully this message will reach DLCW or his coach.
     
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    before, when LD wins, it was because china BCL and chen jin paved the way for LD. Now, the reason is that LD stay fresher by playing less tournaments. Which is which? I believe taufik invented this mouse behaviour. Did it helped taufik winning lots of titles?
     
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    my thought is the exact opposite. if i'm LCW i'll certainly cut down my schedules down to a comfortable level that i'll be fresh and injuries free whenever i play. and i'll target only the t'ments that LD entered and play. the theory is i honestly dont believe there are much different between the two as their h2h suggested.

    the advanages that LD has on LCW are:
    1) LD is very confident because he believes he is the best,
    2) LD has a team of very good teammates to help him along at t'memts,
    3) CHN and LD no doubt have the best coaching/training facilities than the others.

    if you consider all the above and you can understand how good LCW is and will be, he only needed one or two good wins against LD and he will be on his way to .... where ever he wanted to be.
     
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    With due respect to MS, DLCW should change coach. He has remained stagnant for a long time. Yes, you may argue that he is WR#1 but that's because he has played in more tournaments, hence his ranking points but in terms of major titles, he doesn't have many. That's why I agree with the idea of him being selective of the tournaments he participates where he could be more prepared mentally and physically to come out victorious.
     
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    That's a possibility..

    ..sure, i don't mind that approach. If one prefers LCW to pick and choose & participate in tourneys LD attends, then go for it. To me, it doesn't really matter if DLCW faces LD or not in his tourneys, esp. since both are roughly equal strength.
    The key is still not to get DLCW all worked up and possibly putting more stress on his knee/leg by participating in so many tourneys. DLCW needs to be selective from now on.
     

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