They separated because Cai retired after winning more than any Indonesian MD player....where's Ahsans OG medal? Oh wait. He didnt even make it out of groups... Anyhow, compared to other pros Gideon has weak technique, look how much he flails around and overswings the racket...somebody has to be below the average, and his movement and aggression make up for it. Didnt say he was a weak player, btw.
cai did not retire. he played with lu kai beat ahsan/hendra then, if you think you are better than them
Almost every Chinese doubles player that retires due to age plays a couple tournaments with a young player. Fu did the same, both before and after forming his partnership with Zhang Nan. And where did I say anything about being even comparable to Ahsan/Setiawan? I think Setiawan is one of the best MD players of all time, mate.
the cynic in me regards all 'new members' as trolls until proven otherwise... the 'ignore' link is certainly getting a workout.
This statement is not valid at all to say Marcus/Kevin is better than Fu. By the same method, we can say that Lee Yong Dae/Yoo Yeon Seong is better than Minions as they never managed to beat LYD even once. But anyway, as you said, that is according to you and is your opinion
you should not keep doing that, you know ignorance to care with it is the source of unbalanced understanding and knowledge, which will further increase the polarity I know sometimes it can be tiring though
cai/fu and lee/yoo, please come back and beat minions if they can beat minions then i will say they are better than minions of course it is my opinion
i'm a big believer in pattern of behavior. it's not worth engaging people who lack knowledge based on experience, logic, or reasoning. why waste your time? how many posts do you need to read before realizing the 'new member' is a troll? 1/10/100/1000? i guess that's where experience comes in handy. check my age in my profile... i've been around.
how are their last matches (minions vs bo/mo)? minions avenge their losses to bo/mo, liu/zhang, kam/son it's hard for them to beat minions again that's my opinion
just stop compare them to cai/fu, like I said they has yet to prove that they're better than ahsan/setiawan, let alone the legendary cai/fu. let them prove in the big events first before we even compare them to all these legends.
Please tell us who's pro are you comparing him to? and show us in video (link etc) the apple to apple comparison where the other pro and him do the same stroke.
gideon reminds me of sonoda, nothing special at all and as J4ckie said his technique is pretty weak compared to other pros. but luckily he can relied on his speed and movement for now, not sure for how long though.
Sorry. I only count their losses. They lost the important one and that's the World Championships. I remember the pairs who win the major championships. Rudy Gunawan, Ricky sugbajia, Rexy, Tony Gunawan, Candra, Sigit, Hendra, Kido, Ahsan..... Maybe the minions will get on that list - will have to wait and see.
On the other hand, I am a believer of complex system where each of us will be able to give certain impact on others In this case, I believe that even the smallest attempt to educate these people will in the end help the overall picture. Similarly to the no-attempt-made is also giving effect, for instance in their increase of confidence to not trying to think more I love this discussion hahahaaa But, I think it is time to move on for now
Can you defeat Gideon @j4ckie? Otherwise work your own technique so that you can make million dollars, become world number one, player of the year and get millions view on youtube. Otherwise you'll just playing low level local German tournament, garnering 10 views on your youtube videos at post your videos on BC. Go get that low level German club title while they worry about winning Olympic and World Championship.
Seeing j4ckie's technique at post your videos, he'll be lucky to get 1 point from Minions with his best partner. Nobody want your technique its crap but we certainly dont mind to have Minions.