Badminton: Misbun fears Taufik more than Lin Dan

Have you not heard of this :

"People living in past glories will pay the price in the future" :D
Is this an original? If so, you are quite a sage. How about coding it ,like give it a shorthand?We have so many posts of not letting go of past glories in spite of present realities.It 'll be good for you to respond with a signature stamp and we understand it instantly.
I can respect past glories but if we don't appreciate progress in the present, then how far can badminton go forward?
 
Misbun is a reputable badminton player and coach..for you to accuse he is full of craps , just showing "no respect" at all to Misbun....which I do not think you have rights at all...pls be respectfull


I don't see any of you say the same thing when it comes to LYB(being so called "arrogant") whom I may add has accomplished much more than Misbun.:rolleyes:
 
This is the "Taufik factor" that I keep mentioning for this coming WC. The logic is very simple, LD & LCW will be the top 2 seeds, TH will be seeded much lower (probably 8). The story will be different if TH is seeded higher than LD & LCW.

According to many including Misbun & myself think that LD & TH are the players who can potentially dethrone LCW. Since TH is seeded lower, LD or LCW has a possiblity of meeting TH as early as QF.

Common sense tells us that LD or LCW will have to eliminate TH before they can face off each other in the final. History also tells us that, whoever beat TH lost the next round as seen in MO07 & CM07. I guess both Misbun & LYB are well aware of it.

As a coach, Misbun's concern is understandable. LYB also stated that LCW is more threatening than TH as far as this WC is concerned. Well, it could be a part of the psychology game.

I think YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP & the one who needs to SHUT UP!

It's funny how instead of responding to my second post(#28), which I added my reasoning as to why I refer Misbun's opinion as full of crap, you attack my first post. That's the spirit!!! :cool:

Here... my turn of a low blow:p
The best choice of word you use here really is "dethrone LCW" though... I don't think neither LD or TH(or anybody for that matter) can dethrone LCW, when LCW has never been "Throned" so to speak. LOL...:D
 
I understand you are a true LCW diehard #1 fan...but I get nervous with your over-confidence. I would like to see a nice guy like LCW win WC and prove you right, but I soon rather see him play under the radar, much like an underdog where he plays well. Do all the cheering (for LCW) and booing (for the rivals) in the stadium where it counts and helps...
as for someone said he is impressed if LD make it past the 3rd round, I bet LD would make it to the SF at least, unless he meet TH early on. I would be looking for LD dives:eek:, as I noticed LD is not doing that stuff as much as he did in previous tourney... is it age or fear of recurring injury???
TH is very dangerous and play well in high profile tourney, the rewards from INA govt is huge therefore provides bigtime incentive to win WC, cos INA govt recognize winning OLY, WC, TC, IO more than any other Opens...
BCL, well if BAO does not play like a girl :p :D(don't blame me, Cooler said that girlie stuff many times, so blame Cooler, hahaha!!!) and if the draw is kind to him, then BAO may have a chance....still my darkhouse for this tourney, the guy who is ranked high, can surprise everyone and so far flying under the radar is CJ...as a gambler, I place my bet on him to win. Let the games unfolds.

Regardless how much we love Lee Chong Wei, we have to be aware that he has yet to win any big events like All England, Olympic, World Championship or even Asian Games.(Most of the Malaysian players have not achieve that but we keep on saying how great they are, quite inappropriate) The only advantage LCW has in this WC is playing at home while he's back to his prime. On the contrary, Taufik and Lin Dan have won the big events so they've an edge. I have to say for LCW to win, he has to have a favorable draw avoiding Taufik else Lin Dan shall prevail.
If Chong Wei emerge as winner despite tough draw then he will be a true champion in my opinion. LCW is an excellent player who has yet to achieve greatness and lets hope he fulfill our dream this time. Malaysia Boleh!
 
Even if he didnt manage to win this WC.. which i hope not. I'm sure many will respect him for the player that he is.
 
Admitting your argument is flawed by saying case closed is a wise move.;) Saves you from further embarassment.
how could i debate someone who is NEVER wrong, and have no evidence to back that up either? I'm flawed and yet made a wise move, which one is it?LOL
 
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Nah...
Win or lose in the coming WC, debates will continue ...

...Maybe he [it] would be better if gade or wacha wins:D

YES...That way there will be less controversies afterward!

But I would prefer GADE over WACHA, since he is no longer young and will be retiring soon after the 08 Olympics (I hope he takes this title as well)! :D
 
Even if he didnt manage to win this WC.. which i hope not. I'm sure many will respect him for the player that he is.

Yes, I agree. Lee Chong Wei is as good as Wong Choon Hann during his prime, feared by many and came close to win the WC2003.
 
Wong Choong Han is da man! Still got the hops and the weapon at this time. Too bad he was hampered by injuries.. if not he would be in the Top 10 by now.
 
here is the fact:

TH is a real threat to LCW
LCW is a real threat to LD
LD is a real threat to PG
PG is a real threat to Wacha
Wacha is a real threat to BP
BP is a real threat to CJ
CJ is a real threat to Sony

And so...on:D


I like this analysis...fairly accurate!

I would like to add:
CJ is a real threat to Sony, Simon, & PG
CY is a real threat to PG
BP is a real threat to CJ & CY
BCL is a real threat to TH
LCW is a real threat to BP & BCL
PG is a real threat to BCL

and in my opinion, Taufik Hidayat is a real threat to anyone if he in form and focused with Lin Dan & Lee Chong Wei being close seconds (because this is on LCW's home ground).
 
I don't see any of you say the same thing when it comes to LYB(being so called "arrogant") whom I may add has accomplished much more than Misbun.:rolleyes:


I never bash LYB...and I do not like him..but he has done a great job for china ...you should see myprevious posts before your comments...I never say that LYB is full of craps...I respect him but does not mean that i like him...
You are not polite at all...:mad::mad:
Misbun has not done as much as LYB..but it does not mean that he is full fo craps.....thats very mean...what qualified you to say that to Misbun....??

I think you are suddenly of becoming of being EXPERT to call someone who has been in badminton more than 2 decades...then you are full of craps...
 
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Regardless how much we love Lee Chong Wei, we have to be aware that he has yet to win any big events like All England, Olympic, World Championship or even Asian Games.(Most of the Malaysian players have not achieve that but we keep on saying how great they are, quite inappropriate) The only advantage LCW has in this WC is playing at home while he's back to his prime. On the contrary, Taufik and Lin Dan have won the big events so they've an edge. I have to say for LCW to win, he has to have a favorable draw avoiding Taufik else Lin Dan shall prevail.
If Chong Wei emerge as winner despite tough draw then he will be a true champion in my opinion. LCW is an excellent player who has yet to achieve greatness and lets hope he fulfill our dream this time. Malaysia Boleh!

Same can be said to LD as well.. He is world no. 1 for such a long periods.. However. Never win the Major titles in OG/AG
While WC/AE/AG/OG considered the "Grand Slam" in badminton. A player only can be throned as "LEGENDS" ONLY he manage to win both events.:rolleyes:
 
Same can be said to LD as well.. He is world no. 1 for such a long periods.. However. Never win the Major titles in OG/AG
While WC/AE/AG/OG considered the "Grand Slam" in badminton. A player only can be throned as "LEGENDS" ONLY he manage to win both events.:rolleyes:
There are so competitive in MS now....it depends on the draw and who beats who...tough to predict...I guess this make badminton more exciting...I hope that there will be some upsets in WC...cant say WHO..love that Wacha's moments...just cant wait to see who prevails as a winner...
 
Same can be said to LD as well.. He is world no. 1 for such a long periods.. However. Never win the Major titles in OG/AG
While WC/AE/AG/OG considered the "Grand Slam" in badminton. A player only can be throned as "LEGENDS" ONLY he manage to win both events.:rolleyes:

So, are you saying that Yang Yang, Zhao JianWau 赵剑华(spelling?) are not legends just because they have not won OG and AG together??? Any player before 1992 has no chance of being called a legend simply because they can not win an olympic medal???:rolleyes::confused::confused::confused: Only legend in the whole history of badminton is Taufik Hidayat... well you have great standard.:rolleyes:

Lin Dan, Being the #1 and winning the most tournaments like 3, 4 years in a row still can't prove that he is the best in this century. I am glad that Federer actaully won Grand Slam before, or else everyone will doubt that he is not the best either.:rolleyes:
 
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I never bash LYB...and I do not like him..but he has done a great job for china ...you should see myprevious posts before your comments...I never say that LYB is full of craps...I respect him but does not mean that i like him...
You are not polite at all...:mad::mad:
Misbun has not done as much as LYB..but it does not mean that he is full fo craps.....thats very mean...what qualified you to say that to Misbun....??

I think you are suddenly of becoming of being EXPERT to call someone who has been in badminton more than 2 decades...then you are full of craps...

What is there to be respectful about a coach who eats humble pie all the time while coaching Hafiz, then gets lucky and one of his charge starts to show progress, then this coach starts to talk like he is the best psychologist + coach in this world??? :rolleyes: Before the progress of LCW, and Misbun only had Hafiz in his charge, he never bash Hafiz much, now he is just a complete jerk to Hafiz because now Hafiz is useless("of no value" if you want a better word) to him.

I don't expect you to respect me, especially if you don't like me to telling it as it is. I am not here to win a popularity contest by agreeing with every other member here, and I am just here to speak my mind... if you don't like it, well you can feel free to bash me all you want, just make sure you are prepared to receive as much from me as you give me.

Honestly, I would respect Misbun for what he has brought out of LCW, but I definitely will NOT respect the additional comments from him(which again sounds like it is coming out from a fan) :rolleyes:
 
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What is there to be respectful about a coach who eats humble pie all the time while coaching Hafiz, then gets lucky and one of his charge starts to show progress, then this coach starts to talk like he is the best psychologist + coach in this world??? :rolleyes: Before the progress of LCW, and Misbun only had Hafiz in his charge, he never bash Hafiz much, now he is just a complete jerk to Hafiz because now Hafiz is useless("of no value" if you want a better word) to him.

I don't expect you to respect me, especially if you don't like me to telling it as it is. I am not here to win a popularity contest by agreeing with every other member here, and I am just here to speak my mind... if you don't like it, well you can feel free to bash me all you want, just make sure you are prepared to receive as much from me as you give me.

Honestly, I would respect Misbun for what he has brought out of LCW, but I definitely will NOT respect the additional comments from him(which again sounds like it is coming out from a fan) :rolleyes:

Well....let me put it this way......that makes you and me are in the different class of society...;);)..sure I will give you more pain as long as you deserve it...I also speak my mind also..unfortunately we are in different take...jsut dont think you have a right...anyway...just be prepared as you said..!!!;);)
 
Well....let me put it this way......that makes you and me are in the different class of society...;);)..sure I will give you more pain as long as you deserve it...I also speak my mind also..unfortunately we are in different take...jsut dont think you have a right...anyway...just be prepared as you said..!!!;);)


:p I am always prepared to take it back, since I always deal enough out to everyone(only the ones who deserve it though:p) else.:D

I wouldn't say we are in "different class" of society, since unless you look down on me, or else I definitely don't look down on you(and at times, I do find you make alot of sense in other threads):cool:

We have different view points here, and I respect your right to disagree with me, but you can't change my mind about Misbun in THIS 1 situation "ONLY"... I will admit that I am wrong, if I am wrong, but in this case, it is more of personal reasoning than anything else. I don't like people who talk like hell when they have the "advantage", and keep their mouth shut when they know they are in trouble(or something similar)... just like Misbun in this case.
 
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