Badminton: Misbun fears Taufik more than Lin Dan

bananaboy said:
:p I am always prepared to take it back, since I always deal enough out to everyone(only the ones who deserve it though:p) else.:D

I wouldn't say we are in "different class" of society, since unless you look down on me, or else I definitely don't look down on you(and at times, I do find you make alot of sense in other threads):cool:

We have different view points here, and I respect your right to disagree with me, but you can't change my mind about Misbun in THIS 1 situation "ONLY"... I will admit that I am wrong, if I am wrong, but in this case, it is more of personal reasoning than anything else. I don't like people who talk like hell when they have the "advantage", and keep their mouth shut when they know they are in trouble(or something similar)... just like Misbun in this case.;)
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Okay...just dont like you use the word" full of craps" so demeaning..thats all.....if you read carefully..he does not mean that way.....also Misbun is known as a person does not that much, not like LYB which I have to say and everyone in badminton society agree that he has big mouth.....look down other players and say bad things, etc...thats not professional...
anyway..I rest my case...
 
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samuel882 said:
Same can be said to LD as well.. He is world no. 1 for such a long periods.. However. Never win the Major titles in OG/AG
 While WC/AE/AG/OG considered the "Grand Slam" in badminton. A player only can be throned as "LEGENDS" ONLY he manage to win both events.:rolleyes:
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it is quite sad to keep seeing taufik fans only remembering his success and not his failures. I keep hearing and reading how TH won MS at 2006 doha. Yes, he did win, the individual title. Earlier in the same week in the team event where china beat INA 3-1, LD beat TH in 3 sets, 21-17, 17-21, 21-16. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38598
Hmm., how come this doha match persistently and conveniently not mentioned by the taufik fans? I watched that match too on cctv5. Too bad no videos on this TH lost. So for those TH fans saying LD hasnt won at Asian game, i say phoowie. This team win by LD over TH is just as valid as the individual match. A win is a win, and it is at doha. A real TH fan should know and recognize this fact.
 
cooler said:
it is quite sad to keep seeing taufik fans only remembering his success and not his failures. I keep hearing and reading how TH won MS at 2006 doha. Yes, he did win, the individual title. Earlier in the same week in the team event where china beat INA 3-1, LD beat TH in 3 sets, 21-17, 17-21, 21-16. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38598
Hmm., how come this doha match persistently and conveniently not mentioned by the taufik fans? I watched that match too on cctv5. Too bad no videos on this TH lost. So for those TH fans saying LD hasnt won at Asian game, i say phoowie. This team win by LD over TH is just as valid as the individual match. A win is a win, and it is at doha. A real TH fan should know and recognize this fact.
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I fink we are talking about TH personal performance in a singles event here. It does not count no matter how many times TH lost to LD in TEAM match.:p. Please face the reality that LD failed to win OG/AG ..
I am still fink TH is incomplete with his medals collection w/o AE title in his bag...
 
cooler said:
it is quite sad to keep seeing taufik fans only remembering his success and not his failures. I keep hearing and reading how TH won MS at 2006 doha. Yes, he did win, the individual title. Earlier in the same week in the team event where china beat INA 3-1, LD beat TH in 3 sets, 21-17, 17-21, 21-16. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38598
Hmm., how come this doha match persistently and conveniently not mentioned by the taufik fans? I watched that match too on cctv5. Too bad no videos on this TH lost. So for those TH fans saying LD hasnt won at Asian game, i say phoowie. This team win by LD over TH is just as valid as the individual match. A win is a win, and it is at doha. A real TH fan should know and recognize this fact.
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I think it is about the medal..LD beat TH in team so all CHN team got all gold medals and standing on podium together...so LD was not stand out..:(

TH beat LD in individual event so TH got gold medal alone by himself and stood on higher podium..plus single events are being played after Team event so people always remembered the last one......

We all agree that LD/TH/LCW/CH/CJ are in the same league...same thing in tennis..people remember Serena wins mostly Grass tournaments...nobody remembers her winning at French Open. ( clay)....or just like American idol...if you perform well in 1st song then screw up in 2nd song..people will remember that you suck.....and you get voted out...
 
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Finally, kiss and make up. Anyway, both of you, bananaboy and hau-ge have a diffeence in opinion. Both of you have every right to agree and disagree. Just that the boy must respect the gege, that's all out of respect. LOL !!!!!
After all being said and done, we are still badminton fans with passion.
 
USAfan said:
Finally, kiss and make up. Anyway, both of you, bananaboy and hau-ge have a diffeence in opinion. Both of you have every right to agree and disagree. Just that the boy must respect the gege, that's all out of respect. LOL !!!!!
After all being said and done, we are still badminton fans with passion.
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:D:D how do you know that I am older than bananaboy? so sad!!! :D:D
 
Taufik has played Olympics many time, has played Asian Games many time,...

but Lindan has played Olympics only 1 time, and Asian games also just once.

When Taufik played Olympics the first time, he did not win.

When Taufik played AG the first time, he did not win either.
 
indra said:
here is the fact:

TH is a real threat to LCW
LCW is a real threat to LD
LD is a real threat to PG
PG is a real threat to Wacha
Wacha is a real threat to BP
BP is a real threat to CJ
CJ is a real threat to Sony

And so...on:D
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virusvoodoo said:
Taufik Hidayat is a real threat to anyone if he in form and focused .
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By definition, threat means something bad likely to happen.

Therefore, if someone is in form and wants to win, he is threat to everyone else.

But for all the people, beat Lindan is mission impossible if lindan is in form and focused. That's the definition the current best player.
 
samuel882 said:
Same can be said to LD as well.. He is world no. 1 for such a long periods.. However. Never win the Major titles in OG/AG
 While WC/AE/AG/OG considered the "Grand Slam" in badminton. A player only can be throned as "LEGENDS" ONLY he manage to win both events.:rolleyes:
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To me, a great player should be the one who win AE or Olympic or WC and many other regular tournaments. Lin Dan has won 2 AEs, 1 WC and so many others major tournaments, if he don't qualify as great player then no one should be. Peter has also won AE and many major tournaments so he's in my book. I will not include Hafiz even he has won AE as he has not won many other tournaments. It's really a judgement call and is going to be subjective so these are my great players :
Yang Yang;
Zhao Jianhua;
Sun Jun;
Peter Gade;
Taufik Hidayat;
Lin Dan;
Rexy/Ricky;
Ha Tae Kwun/Kim Dong Moon;
Kim Dong Moon/Ra Yuming;
I hope someone don't get mad at me :p
 
huangkwokhau said:
I think it is about the medal..LD beat TH in team so all CHN team got all gold medals and standing on podium together...so LD was not stand out..:(

TH beat LD in individual event so TH got gold medal alone by himself and stood on higher podium..plus single events are being played after Team event so people always remembered the last one......

We all agree that LD/TH/LCW/CH/CJ are in the same league...same thing in tennis..people remember Serena wins mostly Grass tournaments...nobody remembers her winning at French Open. ( clay)....or just like American idol...if you perform well in 1st song then screw up in 2nd song..people will remember that you suck.....and you get voted out...
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YEah.. American Idols if u performance was sucks then u will doomed into "American Idoits".. :D:D
 
Han said:
To me, a great player should be the one who win AE or Olympic or WC and many other regular tournaments. Lin Dan has won 2 AEs, 1 WC and so many others major tournaments, if he don't qualify as great player then no one should be. Peter has also won AE and many major tournaments so he's in my book. I will not include Hafiz even he has won AE as he has not won many other tournaments. It's really a judgement call and is going to be subjective so these are my great players :
Yang Yang;
Zhao Jianhua;
Sun Jun;
Peter Gade;
Taufik Hidayat;
Lin Dan;
Rexy/Ricky;
Ha Tae Kwun/Kim Dong Moon;
Kim Dong Moon/Ra Yuming;
I hope someone don't get mad at me :p
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By you definition, there is no reason to exclude Chen Hong. Chen Hong won AE 2 twice. and even more other tournaments than Gade, especially the tournamens with many stars.

For the current players, I like to rank as:

1) Lin Dan
2) Chen Hong
3) Peter Gade
4) Taufik Hidayat

Only those 4 current players can be written into the history book.
 
samuel882 said:
I fink we are talking about TH personal performance in a singles event here. It does not count no matter how many times TH lost to LD in TEAM match.:p. Please face the reality that LD failed to win OG/AG ..
I am still fink TH is incomplete with his medals collection w/o AE title in his bag...
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beating TH in 3 sets, 21-17, 17-21, 21-16 require individual effort in my book. I watched that match, and I didn't see any china team members or girlfriend xxf went on the court helping LD to beat TH.
 
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2cents said:
By you definition, there is no reason to exclude Chen Hong. Chen Hong won AE 2 twice. and even more other tournaments than Gade, especially the tournamens with many stars.

For the current players, I like to rank as:

1) Lin Dan
2) Chen Hong
3) Peter Gade
4) Taufik Hidayat

Only those 4 current players can be written into the history book.
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in my opinion:

1.Lin dan
2.Taufik Hidayat
3.Chen Hong
4. Peter Gade
 
2cents said:
By you definition, there is no reason to exclude Chen Hong. Chen Hong won AE 2 twice. and even more other tournaments than Gade, especially the tournamens with many stars.

For the current players, I like to rank as:

1) Lin Dan
2) Chen Hong
3) Peter Gade
4) Taufik Hidayat

Only those 4 current players can be written into the history book.
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it should be:
1) Lin Dan
2) Taufik Hidayat (th defeated pg twice in a row, first in sudirman cup 2007 than in China master 2007 (easily) )
3) Chen Hong
4) Peter Gade

can u give me a comparison betwen PG and TH (how many they won the tournaments) ?. you listed TH below PG
:D :D :p
 
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taufik-ist said:
it should be:
1) Lin Dan
2) Taufik Hidayat (th defeated pg twice in a row, first in sudirman cup 2007 than in China master 2007 (easily) )
3) Chen Hong
4) Peter Gade

can u give me a comparison betwen PG and TH (how many they won the tournaments) ?. you listed TH below PG
:D :D :p
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Taufik is a genius and of course very talented. But since his records in open tournaments are very poor, especially has not won any open tournaments in Europe. The other gripe about Taufik is that he never really dominated the ranking, Chen Hong has been the number 1 for more than one year that's very amazing.

I ranked them according to their records (winning tournaments) If we talk about most gifted players, Lin Dan and Taufik are away better than Chen Hong and Peter Gade. So I agree with you guy's list if we rank them not based on records
 
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taufik-ist said:
if he wins this WC 2007, he may be listed at #5 :D
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huangkwokhau said:
Sorry....if 2cents talk about top 4 and based on big tournaments only.....LCW is still young.I am sure he will make into the list.....dont worry!!;);)
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totally agree:D

What Lee CW needs is to win more and win big ... So far, he hasn't won many yet.

LCW is at the same age as Lin dan, Bao CL and Sony. LCW seems the best candidates now. Chen Yu, Bao CL and Sony are very week at winning. They don't have the killer instinct.

The other one capable of winning is Chen Jin. He has won several 6 star titles already. But he seems not highly motivated as Lin Dan. Good thing for CJ is that there seems not many decent players at his age.

Kenneth J, Lee HI are stable, but usually stop at quarter finals or semi finals at best.

Boonsak and Hafiz are unstable, they can win sporadically one or two, but could be defeated at first round also.
 
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