Badminton Photography

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kwun said:
you have a 20D, right? i think you can probably go up to ISO800 with the 20D and still get clean pics. that way, you can go up to f/2.8 and you will get sharper pic. try it!
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I have the XT (aka the 350D :) ) now, but I will be upgrading to the FF cameras next year when I save enough :) (Hopefully, the follow-up camera of 5D is out by that time)

:)
 
For badminton photos, I kinda think it is better to bring two bodies with a medium and a telephoto lenses on them is a lot easier to work with.

Sometimes you would miss big shots while you were changing lenses.... Anyone has the similar experiences?
 
bluejeff said:
For badminton photos, I kinda think it is better to bring two bodies with a medium and a telephoto lenses on them is a lot easier to work with.
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absolutely!
in the past, when film camera was the only choice. photographers bought all their own gears including 3-5 camera bodies. most of the newspaper and magazine photographers here brought at lease 2 bodies on assignments. no matter what his or her perpose was. may be for their own convinence or as a backup body.
but now it's is a bit different. instead of covering a real big assignment. most of us will only carry one body. not because we are lazy. the real story is that. we no longer buy our own stuff. all dslr were supplied by our publications and nobody is willing to spend on something that has a lightning fast depreciation!:p


bluejeff said:
Sometimes you would miss big shots while you were changing lenses.... Anyone has the similar experiences?
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bluejeff, that happened to me for countless time!!!!!:o
 
bluejeff said:
For badminton photos, I kinda think it is better to bring two bodies with a medium and a telephoto lenses on them is a lot easier to work with.

Sometimes you would miss big shots while you were changing lenses.... Anyone has the similar experiences?
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interesting point. when i shoot GGBC Open, i had two bodies, my D200 is my main body with the fast lenses. and then my D70 is the one with a wide-angle to capture the off court photos.

frankly though, i find that carrying more than one body is a real pain, too much stuff hanging off my neck and it was a pain to ensure that they don't clash each other. i have the D70 on a short strap, while the D200 on the long strap.

also, to red's point, it is preferrable to have identical bodies, there is no way i can afford two D200.. :P
 
bluejeff said:
For badminton photos, I kinda think it is better to bring two bodies with a medium and a telephoto lenses on them is a lot easier to work with.

Sometimes you would miss big shots while you were changing lenses.... Anyone has the similar experiences?
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You need a partner with a camera
 
Canon are bringin out a new entry DLSR to replace the 350D. Here are a few interesting points to consider for indoor sports.

a) it's is limited to max rate of 3 frames per second - if you can get the timing right, it should be OK for badminton i.e. not too much of a limitation, though faster would be better
b) the AF system is 9 point - this is a very important aspect. Not sure if it has a high precision AF sensor which is really important for keeping up with badminton players. After all, most of us amateurs want an AF camera for the AF feature!!
c) shutter lagtime (time from pressing the shutter button to actually taking the photo) is not mentioned - is it better than 350D? I find 350D a bit slow whereas I was much happier with my 30D.
 
In brief

Worldwide naming
Canon EOS 400D (Europe / Asia / Elsewhere)
Canon Digital Rebel XTi (North America)
Canon EOS Kiss Digital X (Japan)

Major new features / changes
10 megapixel CMOS sensor
Separate low pass filter with ultra-sonic vibration to remove dust
Anti-static coatings on sensor surface, software based dust mapping / removal
Nine area Auto Focus sensor (same as EOS 30D)
Picture Styles, larger range of image parameter adjustment (same as EOS 30D)
Faster image processing
Removal of control panel LCD display, now uses main LCD monitor
Proximity sensor below viewfinder eyepiece to disable main LCD during composition
Camera settings made on main LCD (such as metering, white balance, ISO, AF area etc.)
Setting adjustment saved with half-press of shutter release
Continuous shooting buffer up to 27 JPEG and 10 RAW images
Large 2.5" LCD monitor with 160° viewing angle
Image magnification available in record review
Histogram available as brightness (Luminance) or RGB (Red, Green, Blue)
Traditional Chinese language (in addition to Simplified Chinese)
Up to 9999 images per folder on storage card
Lower introductory list price ($100 lower)

What's missing?
(at first glance)
No programmable Auto ISO (such as seen on the Nikon D80, almost 'ISO priority')
No spot metering
Settings such as ISO not repeated on viewfinder status bar while being adjusted
Mirror lock-up buried in a custom menu
Hand grip virtually identical to that of the EOS 350D / Digital Rebel XT
 
This might be your camera Cooler.

I managed to find out the AF is exactly the same as the 30D. It has the high precision centre point AF. Aargh,:(

Looks like good value to me
 
Another tip. In low light, aim the centrepoint focus on a high contrast area. it's much harder to get the focus right at HK Open. No wonder I had so much diffiuclty with 350D. It must be the light. Macau Open was so much easier with it's better light. Took another couple of hundred pics yesterday. Many out of focus because the AF locks on to a high contrast area which many times is the top of the net!
 
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Cheung said:
Another tip. In low light, aim the centrepoint focus on a high contrast area. it's much harder to get the focus right at HK Open. No wonder I had so much diffiuclty with 350D. It must be the light. Macau Open was so much easier with it's. Took another couple of hundred pics yesterday. Many out of focus because the AF locks on to a high contrast area which many times is the top of the net!
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yes, u are absolutely right cheung!
sometimes even if the lighting is good. but it will still be tough for the af system to function properly when a player who wears a single color shirt on court!
 
yeah, so even if your centre of focus is on a player's shirt with a single colour, the camera might actually lock on the net which is away from the centre. That's what I couldn't understand about my pictures with the 350D last year at HK Open. I was sure I had the focus on the player, yet it was the net or background that would be in focus when I examined the photo.

Nice to know it wasn't just me to blame!
 
damn. i actually dreamed about taking badminton photos last night. this discussion is getting brainwashing.
 
kwun said:
damn. i actually dreamed about taking badminton photos last night. this discussion is getting brainwashing.
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Your right Kwun... Lately i've been very lazy losing interest in taking pics. Probably my mind was focusing in something else. After seeing the guys with those pics etc... i think i will try to do something about photography again. hehehe
 
Kwun had a D70 right :D
Cheung said:
Some clarification. I spoke this person again, and he had used all point focussing on the 1D. When he switched to centre point focus, he found he could shoot through the net.

For those Nikon D70 users, another friend showed me her pics (printed out on 6 x 4) using a D70 and 80-200/2.8 (not the VR version). I must say they turned out pretty good and better than the high noise ones from the D70 that I've seen posted on BF.
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jamesd20 said:
Nice pics Johansen.


BTW before anybody asks it is not Taufik Hidayat OG+WC Champ, It is Taufik Akbar Hidayat:

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35745


I Think he is training at the IBA? Johansen may know more.
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You are right, it is the "wrong" Taufik Hidayat. I don't think he is training at IBA, but I am not sure. He is not listet in there 2006 squad.
This year he has a contract with the danish 2. league club Lillerød. He will be clubmates to Niels Kristian Kaldau and Peter Steffensen.

Regards
Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk
www.fjerbolden.dk
 
elwin81 said:
Can you recommend me the setting to use for taking picture in a indoor stadium without tripod?
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I'd like to know that too, just bought a new camera, Canon IXUS 60
 
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