BWF and doping : just a joke !

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  1. Zhao

    Zhao Regular Member

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    The BWF organise a seminar on medicine and badminton.
    Everybody knoes that BWF make nothing against doping in badminton. This seminar is just a joke !!!:p

    With the development of badminton since 10 years, it'ridiculous to have no positive control. May be because the control are very poor and rare.:rolleyes:

    Viva BWF and thanks !!!
     
  2. jerby

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    - sigit budiarto was suspended 3 years for doping
    - at the Dutch Open, a 2 star event, every player got a jar...
     
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    there have been many evidence that BWF does have doping control (some of which was mentioned by jerby). it is irresponsible for the OP to accuse them of the contrary without any evidence.
     
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    Who or what is the OP?
     
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    kwun Administrator

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    OP=Original Poster.. the guy who started the thread..
     
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    BWF organised a seminar on medicine and badminton

    Hi Zhao,

    This is not a joke !!! :):):)

    No one badminton player wants to be beaten by another player because of doping.

    It is great that BWF is aware of this, and is trying to prevent this unfair advantage.

    You should have read about what happened to the Tour de France 2007 last week... with so many participants being disqualified for cheating with positive test for blood doping.

    We hope that our beloved Badminton should remain 'CLEAN'.

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
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    It's a problem in most pro sports, even those that a big-news suspensions and bans.
     
  8. Zhao

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    Are you serious ???

    Do you really think badminton is clean ?:)
    Never control in training ! and that's the most important !
    Few control in competition !

    BWF doesn't want many positive plyers. That's not very good for the development !

    And if you just look the result in some discipline with just 2 countries (may be 1) on the top of the last SS... That's logical for you!!!

    Open your eyes, guys!

    I love badminton as you but i'm realistic.

    When the BWF will really fight doping, the results will not be the same!!!
     
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    once again. i see no hard evidence to support what you have claimed. what i see is a bunch of guesses.
     
  10. jerby

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    First off, you show you have no idea wether or not the players are checked for drugs (I make an example).
    Now, your basic arguments comes out as "I don't know of any players getting caught, so they're not doing enough"
     
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    The theory is, unless you have hard fact, everyone is still NOT guilty. You can say look at the other sports, look at the rest of world as much as you can, but unless someone gets caught, s/he is still NOT guilty.

    There's no point of you think or I think. We are talking about something related with ppl's reputation and career. We'd better have some good evidence, before pointing fingers. :cool:
     
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    Your allegations are a joke unless you provide solid proof in the form of documents, player's comments, etc.

    Also, check out this thread
     
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    WADA compliance

    BWF has been complying WADA [World Anti-doping Agency] regulations affiliated by International olympic committee which is the autonomous body of olympic sports. In fact every BWF sanctioned tournaments there is a special process through which the players are screened and sanctions are given.

    It is not theory but it 100% undisputed undouted Anti-Doping process which are implemented and Dr.Gurucharan Singh is the official Doctor who is also officiating some of the FIFA matches to the best of my understanding.

    So the comment is certainly avoidable although exceptions can be there for justifying the rationale but the truth is BWF has complied with this in the BWF sanctioned tournaments and we PRESS and media guys know it deeply

    Let us not misguide the BC instead try to strengthen KWUN, BC and team in promoting the branding of the game.
     
  14. Zhao

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    So naive

    Of course some national fedration make a lot against doping (Denmark, France, Italy, ...) but the real fight must be organise by BWF.
    I know a professional player. He played 18 tournaments (7 SS) this year. He never been controled in international tournament. He's realy in anger about that!!! Only in his country...

    That's the reality !

    Do you think it's normal to have only 2 positive test since 15 years in a professional sport ?:confused:

    In cycling, they realy fight against doping and of course they find the cheater.
    Sorry but the BWF doesn't have the same action !!!

    It's too bad for badminton ! :crying:

    Let's think about that, a big german scientist said :
    "The doping control is the LAST prove of guilty!"
     
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    Everobody knows that this is not enough !!!
     
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    zhao your feelings are certainly justifiable in the better interests of protecting and promoting the badminton community. every sport have their own constitution of rules and regulations as BWF also.
     
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    Wasn't there a player that's currently ranked 28th in the world that tested positive. I still see him competing in recent tournaments.

    Maybe there's something else to it that I don't know.
     
  18. Zhao

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    Just a question

    It would be interesting to know how many times an international is controled in 365 days.
    And what kind of test ???

    I think we'll see big different between countries and continent !!!

    That's not fair and that's the BWF's job to harmonise that !
     
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    what isn't fair? the fact you thought about it?

    "I think, therefore I am" ?:p:D
     
  20. Zhao

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    Once again, a pro player can have one or two years without doping control in international tournament.

    That's a fact !!

    And this fact is not fair !!!


    If you're alright with that, ok:eek::eek::eek:
     

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