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Discussion in 'China Professional Players' started by John Latham, Mar 13, 2001.
Believers or non-believers, theists or atheists, all should be respected.
The Buddha whom I regard as the greatest man who ever lived is also the greatest atheist of all time, in the words of Bertrand Russell, one of the greatest modern philosophers.
God, Marx, Mao? Kim Jong Un? "...keyboard warriors of the Godless Communist Party, who as we all know are paid per word for spreading the myth of Chinese exceptionalism in the internet."? - All these totally uncalled-for, unjustified,unnecessarily provocative, worse than ad hominem arguments. Why? I'm so disappointed.
Sorry, brother. He was getting under my skin. I should have shown restraint. I believe in your first statement.
that's why I said, I'm not so good in english, but you are not so good in logic.
I said, Gong can bla bla bla and overtake susi. and not only overtake susi, but also ye,wang etc
please read the bold statement.
it means gong can overtake susi, ye, wang, han jingna etc, proved that the competition is not so strong.
is it clear ?
and what is the relation with susi H2H between these 3 ?
I know susi is better than these 3, so it is normal if she has positive H2H and better ranking
but for inexperienced gong, how come she without huge OG and uber cup points can overtake susi, ye, han, wang and many WS players to become world #2 ?
it is not LLW's fault.
she has the ability to win more tournament, but there are less tournament in her era. so what she can do ?
LLW can win 3 titles in 3 weeks while stick in WD.
even susi cannot participate in 3 events...considering her skills is not as brilliant as LLW.
this LLW's records (winning 3 in a row while playing single's and double's) is still safe until now. 26 years already.
WYH can win 3 in a row, but she only play in WS
LYD and partner also can win 3 in a row, but not single's and double's
it is different with susi.
susi doesn't has the same ability with LLW, but has the gift from the God likes living not in the same era with LLW and HAP, also not so strong competition, and more events in her era.
btw, sweden and french ?
who is caliblre player from sweden and french ?
compare to china as the strongest nation, what is sweden and french.
even china doesn't care to AE.
look at Li Lingwei and many china players.
LLW in 1989 : Swedish - AE - French.
no respect to AE.
last but not least.
sweden and french more lucrative tournament compare to malaysia and china ?
then why susi never come to french ???
[MENTION=98683]Fortune[/MENTION] In this thread uncle [MENTION=7]Cheung[/MENTION] pulled out an interesting name from the pre modern era. Judy Devlin. 10x WS AE Champ.
Wikipedia says that Marjorie Barrett and Ethel Thomson won 5, while Murial Lucas 6.
Please Google meaning of the word lucrative.
Please re-read statement 80, lines 11-13. Hope it helps.
who care about AE champion ?
no china, no korea, and perhaps only several countries participate at that time
1. Everyone except you.
2. Does that mean FIFA World Cup is meaningless
just make it clear.
why susi never come to french ?
even swedish open only 2 or 3 times.
but chinese taipei open more than that I think
thailand open already won 3 times, but still come for the 4 times or even more
susi also play in poor country like vietnam, right ?
this is susi's data
this is lee yong dae's data :
this is lin dan's data :
you can see, which player that think AE is prestigious, and which one is not.
the player who attend an event before / after the AE most of the time, surely has less respect for AE
the player who focus in AE only for most of the time, surely has great respect for AE
btw, LD often said, he already win 17 or 18 major championships.
do you think 5 out of 17 or 18 is AE title ?
I must say, you have a problem with your logic.
china is weak in football
china is strong in badminton
even if china was absent almost all the time, FIFA WC is still prestigious
Because by 90s the epicentre had shifted.
Don't make fun of someone's current poverty. There was a time our countries were poor too.
Correct. Present tense. But no one knows how strong you were in the 50s. So to discredit AE is incorrect IMO.
then how about french ?
why susi never come ?
swedish only 2 - 3 times ? why ?
why thailand more than 5 times ? why ?
even until now, vietnam is still poor
right now, vietnam is ss level ?
ssp level ?
even this year, vietnam still gp level. not even gp gold level
prize money only $ 50k lol
your statement is contradictive to each other
if only several country participate in AE, how come it is so prestigious ?
no china, no korea, and only several country.
even until now, with more than 25 or even 50 countries participate in AE, AE still has the same status with the other SSP level
even with that, it is not major title for Super Dan
the fact is susi never won china open, the strongest country in badminton, while LLW won 4 Ina Open and her compatriot won about 10 - 11 titles, makes China as the most successful country in WS department in Indonesia open.
susi attend CO 3 times ; 2 in WS and 1 in WD, never won CO title
the weird thing is, she attend thailand open 5 or 6 times.
chinese taipei also 4 or 5 times.
just answer it
why susi never come to french ?
even china is still poor in 1990's
then why susi come to china 3 times while never attend french open ???
why this is happen ?
Swedish open - All England 1997
Gong Zhichao : 7 - 5
Susi : 0 - 3
12 matches vs 3.
as Gong never played in big events, not focus in WS, plus she was very tired after won Swedish open before, so Susi should win the match, but I don't know why, it is Gong that emerge as a winner
seem to be a lot of "why's" going around recurrently ad infinitum.