Indonesia Badminton

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  1. indrg

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    He said “tunggal putri yg maskulin dan tdk lemah lembut” for that the girl either needs a boost of something atau memang sdh kebawaan sejak lahir.


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    First of all, the article title is misleading.

    The thing to boost is the training method, more discipline at training. The WS players should follow the whole plan of the training given.

    "Saya kira salah satu cara menembus kebuntuan di sektor tunggal puteri adalah latihan keras."
    To make a breakthrough in WS category, they need hard working.

    "Tetapi mungkin saat ini jamannya sudah berubah, gaya main pun juga sudah berubah," kata Wiranto.
    The era had changed, so does the playing styles.

    He didn't say “tunggal putri yg maskulin dan tdk lemah lembut”. He didn't mean as you interpreted it.
    He said, "tunggal puteri kita biasanya lemah gemulai dan lebih halus, namun tetap mampu berprestasi tinggi"

    Overall, stay feminine still with high achievement though harder effort and training.
     
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    Just omong2 only, do u guys think Tai Tzu Ying, Ratchanok Intanon r not feminine? I think off court they still are. On court, as said even ladies singles games r aggressive so how can 1 be feminine n aggressive @ d same time?
    What our ladies singles players need r physical training (u hv to be SUPER fit to be agressive n our ladies r NOT) n mental training to be aggresive+tactical.
     
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    I've seen plenty feminine female athletes with six-packs. I think that's just a function of hardwork and dedication, and to be honest, that's what is required to be at the top.

    But I do somewhat agree with what he said there, think our WS players are too "fragile", both mentally and physically.
    Whenever I see our WS playing, it just doesn't look like they'll last the match.
    To a certain degree I also see this with the MS, but glad to see that Anthony is trying his best to buck that view.
     
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    Totally agree with this.
     
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    Speaking of Tai Tzu Ying, have you seen her six pack?? Maybe Wiranto follows TTY's instagram or something and was inspired by her.
     
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    Not really or maybe on Victor's ads/catalogs. Nevertheless, she lost some weight compared to 2016/15. She was quite bulkier, bigger arms+thighs then. Now she looks 'PAS2 an', similar to a lady Lee Chong Wei. Slim but well built. R Intanon was the other way around, she seemed to gain weight, looks fuller n heathier than 2 years ago. They r doing the right diets n training to get to where they r now
     
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    From a random google result:

    https://www.brilio.net/olahraga/10-...utangkis-cantik-berperut-sixpack-180128z.html
     
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    If INA’s Uber team can’t advance vs. 2nd tier THA team in Asia Championship, someone needs to be responsible.


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    I don't think that THA women's team without Ratchanok and Rawinda Prajongjai/Jongkolphan Kititharakul is weaker than INA women's team.
    On the paper, THA / MAS should won against current INA women's team.

    Searching the scapegoat didn't solve the problem.

    It's not about who's responsible for the failure, but what can they do to prevent another failure.
    For the moment, don't hope too much for INA Uber Team. INA women's team is the 7th seeded in Asia, that should be the answer.

    The most important thing, they need to keep Gregoria Mariska on the track to achieve her big dream. Don't let the chance is gone then INA have to wait longer than ever to have a good result in WS.
     
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    The same thing has been said about Fitriani but she is still underperformed.


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    Fitriani isn't a world junior champion. She may be the best INA WS for the moment (based on World Ranking).

    But I see Gregoria have better in mentality and effort to achieve her dream. We could see in her way into final of last year World Junior Championships. In such a critical match, she have just pushed her self to reach her goal at that time.

    The underperformed of Fitriani doesn't mean she couldn't progress more. Let's see if Fitriani could do anything she's still had.

    I think Gregoria would able to overlap Fitriani in next upcoming time. Some better results have been there, Gregoria won bronze medal at 2017 SEA Games and became a runner-up in 2017 Syed Modi (India) GPG while Fitriani's best results as GPG semifinalist in 2017 and a quarter-finalist at 2017 SEA Games.
     
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    Can INA Men Singles Trio beat the DANES : Viktor Axelsen, Anders Antonsen, Emil Host and JOJ lineup in Thomas Cup?
    JOJ is definitely be the 3rd single. Can Ihsan or Kholik beat him?
     
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    INA will need to win both doubles . Kevin/Gideon will almost guarantee 1. Setiawan/Ahsan is a dark horse. If they can perform like they did 4 years ago, then they should be able to beat most 2nd MD.
    As for MS, Indonesia first single will likely lose to CHN/MSIA/DENMARK unless there is an upset. Biggest chance is to steal 2nd MS.
    Winning Thomas Cup is actually an outside chance for Indonesia. I'd fancy Denmark.
    China has non-technical issues in team games ( mental maybe?) and their singles underperformed
     
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    CHN's GOAT Lin Dan will definitely perform best in team competition.
     
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    Looking at it, still cant believe Susi Susanti is still the only female badminton player to have hold Olympic,WC and AE simultaneously and the most AE WS victories with 4 times in the last 40 years i believe.

    Despite all the best Chinese girls , the other who have won all these 3 is CarolinaMarin, although not simultaneously (usurped at 2016AE). ZhangNing is missing AE, and some other missing here and there so let alone, simultaneously.
     
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    Can INA's ladies get a leg up vs. MAS Uber-Cup team: Sonia Cheah, GJW, Vivian Hoo-Woon Khe Wei & company. We need at least 1 win from single.
     
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    They should! But.. Their performance is just as unstable as their mood..
     
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    There are two grades of Indonesia's national team [junior (pratama) and senior (utama)]. Basically they will be selected when their age under 19. For that early selection, they should have a good record in their badminton circuit so they could be part of national team member for Asia Junior Championships and World Junior Championships.

    For national circuits there are National Circuits which have 8 tournaments per year, consist of 4 age categories: adult, U-19, U-17 and also U-15. Plus there are National School Competitions which also have 8 tournaments per year for 2 age categories: U-15 and U-13.

    If you know about Djarum Badminton Superliga, don't forget about Junior Superliga as well.

    Another competitions still there: Chandra Wijaya hold annual Doubles Special Championships (for double players only: U-19, U-17, U-15).
    Alan Budikusuma & Susi Susanti with their brand Astec (Alan-Susi Technology) hold Daihatsu Astec Badminton Open (6 tournaments per year plus annual Astec Championships).

    All national badminton tournaments & championships sanctioned by PBSI are here.
    There isn't enough data to said that there is a minimum age of player that can join the national team. But it's possible for any early age to be a part of Indonesia's national team as long as they're able.

    And for the current team, there is a WS player, her name is Stephanie Widjaja (born at 2003) which is become the current youngest member of the 2018 Indonesia's national player.

    Gregoria Mariska and Jauza Fadhila Sugiarto (Icuk Sugiarto's daughter) were the youngest (both are 14 y.o) when joining 2014 junior national team.

    And a badminton prodigy, Mia Audina first played Uber Cup for Indonesia at 14 y.o. and she helped Indonesia to retain the title in 1996.
     
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    INA TUC team & officials have just finished the 2 days specific training camp in Bogor.

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