Indonesia Open 2006 FINAL (04/06)

I am wondering, how about tony/candra/sigit 10 years ago? Was their technique level the same as Kidho/Setiawan? My impression is that the former should be better.

So what happened to Indo MD? From tony/candra/sigit to Alven/luluk to K/S, seems the level of technique is going downhill...
ctjcad said:
as expected...they're almost like Tony's pupils' age @ OCBC..:)
 
OK, WD has started...huh, for this one, i will not post any livescore...taking a break..will post after the match has ended...sorry, but anyone else, feel free to contribute..:)
 
ye333 said:
I am wondering, how about tony/candra/sigit 10 years ago? Was their technique level the same as Kidho/Setiawan? My impression is that the former should be better.

So what happened to Indo MD? From tony/candra/sigit to Alven/luluk to K/S, seems the level of technique is going downhill...
to answer your 1st question, yes, they were that good even 10 yrs ago...that's why the domination by INA MD from mid 90s to 2000/2001..
but time changes and they all grow older..

I won't say level is going down, but it's just not the same, for whatever reason..:confused:...possibly the newer MD pairs lack quality sparring partners(ie. during Tony/Candra's time, they have Ricky, Rexy, Trikus, Halim, Flandy, Eng Hian to name a few to spar and train with, world elite players, unlike now)..could be also just simply, the lack of new talents..not only in MD but MS, WS, WD and XD..guess PBSI will just wait and see what their new players have to show..:rolleyes:
 
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I think in indonesia, the population of badminton players is so big that they should be able to maintain their standards. There a many poor and hungry players there who would like to have a chance to get out of the ghetto. Same like China.
rgds
 
ctjcad said:
to answer you 1st question, yes, they were that good even 10 yrs ago...that's why the domination by INA MD from mid 90s to 2000/2001..

I won't say level is going down, but it's just not the same, for whatever reason..:confused:

I don't quite understand :-) Anyway, to me, Ricky/Rexy/Candra/tony/Sigit (even Halim, Trikush) are real pleasure to watch, Alven/Luluk (esp. Alven) are sometimes pleasure to watch, but K/S's game seems a bit too simple...

Are all these people coached by C. Hadinato?
 
ye333 said:
I don't quite understand :-) Anyway, to me, Ricky/Rexy/Candra/tony/Sigit (even Halim, Trikush) are real pleasure to watch, Alven/Luluk (esp. Alven) are sometimes pleasure to watch, but K/S's game seems a bit too simple...

Are all these people coached by C. Hadinato?
sorry, which part don't you understand??..Hmm, as far as i know, all of them were coached by coach Christian Hadinata..:)
 
It looks like ZJW and YW are just playing around, not being serious in the 1st set, i mean you can tell by the body language, just cruizin thru....probably going to give the match to their counterpart...hmm, ZYW could be a double winner in this tourney..:rolleyes: :)
 
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Even the Chinese commentators mention that the senior pair made too much mistakes....they don't look to be in the mood of winning today.
 
oh my,
ZYW is a double winner in this tourney...winning with her partner in straight sets over ZJW and YW..
ZJW and YW are purely playing around, the match was almost unwatchable...CTF must be waiting somewhere in the crowd for ZJW to finish her match..hehe;):)
 
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ok, award ceremony time..ZYW was all smiles on the podium, she must be very happy today...both pairs got hats and flowers..1st place gets $15,250, couldn't see what 2nd place got..

ok, the match we're waiting for is up next folkz...enjoy-:)
 
ok, 1st set is up...looks like all the people in the stadium are up and awake...

1-0 BCL serve
1-1 TH serve
2-1 BCL serve, after smash into TH by BCL
3-1 BCL serve
4-1 BCL serve after net by TH
4-2 TH serve...Taufik need to keep the shuttle close to the net, that's his bread and butter, play net more force BCL play close to net..whilst creating offense..BCL is too tall and has longer reach..
4-3 TH serve, wide out by BCL
5-3 BCL serve, drop shot by BCL
6-3 BCL serve
7-3 BCL serve
7-4 TH serve, short smash
7-5 TH serve
8-5 BCL serve
8-6 TH serve
8-7 TH serve
8-8 TH serve after a beautiful cross court backhand dropshot, BCL out of reach
9-8 TH serve
10-8 TH serve, BCL wide long
11-8 TH serve, BCL smash wide.. 20 sec. break..
11-9 BCL serve, after smash in
11-10 BCL serve, wide out by TH
11-11 BCL serve, backhand try wide out by TH
12-11 BCL serve
12-12 TH serve, short drop by TH
13-12 BCL serve, net shot short by TH
14-12 BCL serve, net by TH
15-12 BCL serve, long out by TH
16-12 BCL serve, smash in
16-13 TH serve, tight net by TH
16-14 TH serve another tight net by TH
16-15 TH serve, TH doing lots of drops and tight nets....
16-16 TH serve, another tight net by TH....and BCL hit into net
17-16 BCL serve
18-16 BCL serve, TH hit into the net
18-17 TH serve, another tight net by TH, BCL hits into net
18-18 TH serve, smash wide out..very2 close after TH did a very difficult backhand..
18-19 TH serve, another tight net by TH and BCL hit into net
18-20 TH serve, smash by TH
18-21 TH wins first set, after a smash to BCL forehand...phew, what a match.....2nd set coming up...:)
 
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2nd set is up...

1-0 BCL serve, TH smash hits into net..
2-0 BCL serve, TH hit into net
2-1 TH serve, another tight net and BCL hit into net
2-2 TH serve, another tight net and BCL hit into net...break..i'm telling you guys, TH needs to keep doing that...for some reason CHN's MS player just couldn't keep up with his tight net shots..ie. LD, BCL...
3-2 BCL serve, smash in by BCL
4-2 BCL serve, TH hits into net...
4-3 TH serve, short smash in by TH
5-3 BCL serve, TH hits into net
5-4 TH serve, smash in by TH
6-4 BCL serve, TH was trying to do the late-shuttle hit..
7-4 BCL serve, smash wide out by TH
7-5 TH serve, smash wide in by TH..break
7-6 TH serve, half smash and BCL hits wide
7-7 TH serve, BCL hits into net
7-8 TH serve, smash wide by BCL
7-9 TH serve, lob in to BCL's backhand side by TH
8-9 BCL serve, smash in by BCL
8-10 TH serve, another tight net by TH, BCL hits into net
9-10 BCL serve, BCL smash in
9-11 TH serve, after smash by TH and BCL hits wide...20 sec. break BCL and TH get some coaching help..:)
10-11 BCL serve, TH hits into net
11-11 BCL serve, TH hits out
12-11 BCL serve, TH hits out
12-12 TH serve, BCL low return shot hits net
12-13 TH serve, BCL smash return hits net
 
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Man, what a nice first set to watch, many ups and downs. TH was making a lot of mistakes and BCL was playing it safe, essentially just waiting for TH to make mistakes. But towards the end Bao looked completely helpless against the Indonesian's net-play.
 
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