Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )
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OMG really, so long haven't seen you post!!!
I surprise myself ;-) But really, it is worth my comment.
SibugiChai
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it is a blessing in disguise for Malaysia MS
now everybody else has to stepup !!!
now everybody else has to stepup !!!
Come on, that's quite a cruel thing to say for the one guy who gave you wins and hope for over 10 years!
y_o_n_e_x_m_a_n
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I'm more worried about his image IF it is positive
will "them" still support him? with all his sports cars and companies...
can he maintain?
will "them" still support him? with all his sports cars and companies...
can he maintain?
By the way, does anyone have any clue how often top (let's say Super Series-level) players are being tested? Asking this because I've no clue about badminton but I know that there are lot of differences between sports. For example tennis players are tested quite often but the possibility that a Premier league footballer is tested during a season is less than 1%.
If badminton players are just very randomly tested, it would make a sense that we hear rumours about doping issues but if testing is regular, I dare to say that it is due to medical treatment etc.
If badminton players are just very randomly tested, it would make a sense that we hear rumours about doping issues but if testing is regular, I dare to say that it is due to medical treatment etc.
So we have many people in the category of, "AAARGGHHH, See that! I always sensed something a miss."
To them, please try showing some respect for a player who is indeed great. And this is coming from an ardent Lin Dan Fan. He is one of those few players who can force Lin Dan up to his very best, and produce incredible matches. Though, I often cursed him, for perhaps his popularity in the world, and his usage by the ROW to denigrate and belittle Lin Dan at times, I AM SURE that the person I have known for this while, could not, would not do such a thing. He doesn't even need to play any more to survive off his legacy.
Don't have this attitude towards LCW, especially if you are a fan of LD.
Samples A and B were taken at the same time, both are urine. But they are not analysed by the laboratory at the same time, only sample A is looked at. If it is positive, another lab will look at sample B to be sure.
It happened before in other sports that some samples got mixed up, and the wrong player was accused of doping. Then the sample B can prove a mistake was done.
In similar cases in other sports, the reaction of the people close to the sport is 1) denial that such a problem exist. If this doesn't work, then 2) try to picture the unfortunate player caught as very black, a bad apple in the lot.
I hope this will not happen with LCW. Doping or not, he has given it all to the fans and was always good towards the others players and the badminton circuit (as far as I can judge).
I hope this will not happen with LCW. Doping or not, he has given it all to the fans and was always good towards the others players and the badminton circuit (as far as I can judge).
SibugiChai
Regular Member
Come on, that's quite a cruel thing to say for the one guy who gave you wins and hope for over 10 years!
we cannot change what has happen (the drugs), but we can look forward to the future...
moving on is what i learn in life
i have supported him all his career, but when its time to say bye2... we have to move on
Whatever is said here, he will still be tainted. Although he holds many titles, if he takes drugs, he will be known as a cheat. The only way he can clear his name somewhat is if BAM backs his story, which I am sure he would have one.
CWF, are you ready? :-$
nokh88
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Yes, move on. Whatever will be, will be.
Don't worry, be happy. This is not the end of life.
As for supporting, I stopped a few years ago, after I suspected.......well, that is for another day.
You suspected? What? Please tell us. You, I took, were a great fan of LCW.
nokh88
Regular Member
Dear Sir, as I said suspected. Can't say much until and unless I have....See below :
My apologies.
j4ckie
Regular Member
LoL. So basically you're saying he has been doping ever since he appeared on the international stage? Because he has always looked like this - in fact, he looks much healthier than in his earlier years since he put on some muscle. You really should get a bit more informed about side effects of doping, not drug-use - there's basically no performance-enhancing substance that'll make you look like a junkie.
Sunken eyes, bony body (he actually has super-low body fat, but a very decent amount of muscle, probably more than you) may be an indication of drug abuse, and you can't seriously think any athlete could have a drug problem and still perform
As to his pronounced cheek bones - he was born with those. How would doping change his bone structure, especially in his face?
Didn't the bwf official (or whoever issued the statement) himself say that it was not a performance-enhancing drug, and that it was almost without a doubt an accident? It has to be some pages back (this thread fills up like no one's business), but I'm rather certain I read something like that.
Also, if it's really a painkiller or something of the sort - how would he be 'tainted' by that? It does nothing to enhance performance, and was probably a temporary thing for some injury where someone forgot to check the WADA list if the medicine was okay.
Let's not jump to conclusions before there is an official and definitive statement
Also, Sigit Budiarto still has a lot of fans - and he was actually banned for a performance-enhancing steroid, which is something that really can't happen by mistake and is a lot worse (in my eyes) than something like a pain killer.
eaglehelang
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Urine sample, taken same time as A. A tested first. If the player not satisfied with results, can request to test B
For detailed info, google Sairol/Sairul Ayob, the KLRC player who tested +ve for sample A but negative for B.
nokh88
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eaglehelang
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Published: Tuesday April 24, 2007 MYT 12:00:00 AM
Updated: Friday July 5, 2013 MYT 10:44:40 AM
KLRC shuttler Sairul aims to bounce back from dope scandal
by rajes paul
KUALA LUMPUR: His name had been tainted and his reputation was in ruins after failing a dope test.
In the run: Lee Tsuen Sengis the other KLRC shuttlerwho hopes to make the cutfor the World Championshipsin August.
His mother cried and he almost gave up playing badminton after being banned for two months.
And after months of anguish, anger and anxiety, KLRC Bhd shuttler Sairul Amar Ayob was cleared of any doping violation.
Now the 27-year-old Sairul just wants to focus on winning the last slot to represent Malaysia in the men's singles at the World Badminton Championships which will be held at the Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil from Aug 13-19.
Lee Chong Wei and Mohd Hafiz Hashim have qualified for the world meet by virtue of being in the top 10 of the world rankings.
The third and last slot is an open race among Sairul, who is ranked 22nd, Lee Tsuen Seng (16th) and Yeoh Kay Bin (24th).
To earn the berth Sairul must give a good showing in the Singapore Open (May 1-6) and the Indonesia Open (May 8-13).
After keeping mum over the dope scandal and suspension, Sairul vented out his frustration over the painful episode yesterday that almost saw the end of his badminton career.
The Badminton World Federation (BWF) suspended Sairul from competing in the Malaysian and Korean Opens in January when his sample A taken during a doping test at the Dutch Open semi-finals in October last year turned out to be positive.
Sairul went on to win his first Open title at the Dutch Open. A banned substance dexamethasone that are used in medication for asthma and skin disorder were found in his A sample. However Sairul’s suspension was lifted when his Sample B was found negative.
He could have been slapped with a two-year ban if the sample B was found positive.
With the suspension lifted, Sairul competed in the All-England and Swiss Open in March but the demoralised player lost in the first round of both events.
“I did not take drugs to enhance my performances. I felt very frustrated when I was suspended from the two tournaments (Malaysian and Korean Opens). I was punished and my name was smeared even before the verdict of the Sample B was out. My world ranking was affected (he was ranked at the 14th spot then),” lamented Sairul.
“In fact, I was contemplating to take legal actions against BWF and BAM (Badminton Association of Malaysia) because I felt I did not deserve such treatment. But now, I know that they had to follow certain procedures.
“The worst for me was when my mother called me up crying. She thought I was a junkie and I had to explain to her that I don’t do drugs. Fortunately, my brother, who is a policeman, explained the whole situation to her.
“I am glad that my Sample B was negative. It showed that I did not take drugs. But I will surely be careful of what medication I take in the future,” he said.
Sairul was grateful that his club led by owner Datuk Seri Andrew Kam stood by him.
“In fact, my club sponsored my trip to Belgium where the B Sample was tested at a laboratory there. It was confirmed negative. I was the happiest person then.”
Sairul hoped to repay his club by winning the world meet berth.
“It will be great if one of the KLRC players can make the cut for the world meet. It could be either Lee Tsuen Seng or me. I will be happy as long as one of the club players make it,” he said.
“Ultimately, my goal is to represent Malaysia in the next year’s Olympic Games in Beijing and the Thomas Cup Finals. I am not getting any younger but I will continue to work hard to improve.”
On his chances in the Singapore Open, Sairul said: “I will be meeting China’s Chen Yu in the first round. It will be tough but I will give him a good fight.”
http://www.thestar.com.my/Sport/Oth...Sairul-aims-to-bounce-back-from-dope-scandal/
Maybe this is the reason why after that BWF wouldnt release the name of the player until sample B results come back