Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

Buyer's beware. If he sues the stem cell people, they will claim that he is a willing patient. If one is naive, then if something goes wrong, you pay your own price unless a guarantee was signed that said there is no steroid in the treatment.

I doubt it was the stem cell treatment.
 
eaglehelang said:
Well, well, the plot thickens :
http://www.hmetro.com.my/node/3998

Those who can read malay, take note last 2 paragraphs. Later I will translate, after I'm back home.
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1st few paragraphs quotes a NSI expert who declines to be named.
The NSI expert said
- dont think it's the stem cell treatment, it doesnt last so long in the body.
- dont think it's pain killer either cos pain killer does not contain dexamethasone

Expert thinks it could have been some other meds LCW took during the tournament. Expert does not know if LCW filled up the relevant documentation abt usage of meds(the TUE form)

last 2 paragraphs. same as NST article, speculation that it could have been the stem cell injection.
Metro quoting 'close friend of LCW'. And that LCW only had 3 stem cell injections & did not take any meds during WC .
 
What is he suing for? Did the stem cell people sign a form saying the treatment don't use any banned substance for professional athletes?
 
I know it's just another conspiracy theory, but dang, looking at this it's not that difficult to sabotage an athlete's career. :eek:

All it takes is a bit of this or that med laced in the drink or food or gift snack!
 
I'd think that top-level athletes are cautioned or discouraged about any treatment outside of the approved list of people they are supposed to deal with. And that all their prescriptions, meds or treatment should be first scrutinized or approved by knowledgable people or the resident doctor of BAM (do they have one?) to ensure the athlete isn't inadvertently taking banned substances.

Lastly, I'd think the athlete (the more high-profile, the more severely) would make sure he's gotten approval before he does anything anywhere with meds, treatment etc.

And that all meds, treatment etc are provided only by people on the approved list.

Of course, it doesn't always work so smoothly in real life. But if the athlete has done his due diligence, it should be easy to pinpoint exactly what went wrong, and where. Then we wouldn't have so many apparently conflicting reports or conjectures.
 
visor said:
I know it's just another conspiracy theory, but dang, looking at this it's not that difficult to sabotage an athlete's career. :eek:

All it takes is a bit of this or that med laced in the drink or food or gift snack!
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BAM is bunch of incompetent people. KBA has some missteps but they are admitting their mistakes.
 
george@chongwei said:
Is the CBSL sanctioned by the BWF?
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i don't think he can play.

this weekend there is a local event that Lance Armstrong wanted to participate in, but since the event is sanctioned by USA Cycling, the WADA code says he cannot participate. similarly, if CBSL is sanctioned by the CBA, then it also means due to the same WADA code LCW won't be able to participate in CBSL.
 
kwun said:
What is he suing for? Did the stem cell people sign a form saying the treatment don't use any banned substance for professional athletes?
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IF there is Dexa used as part of the treatment components and Dato' did sign a consent form prior to the procedure then the twist will be get even deeper.
 
visor said:
It is possible that his stem cell therapy may have contained steroids, as it seems that steroids boost the effectiveness of the stem cells. As reported in this scientific article in Apr 2014.

Performance-enhanced mesenchymal stem cells via intracellular delivery of steroids

http://www.nature.com/srep/2014/140410/srep04645/full/srep04645.html
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I am not surprised. Since the rate of healing from MSC is very slow even though it is one of the main component in stem cells treatment (other than platelet), clinically only by means of using steroid can accelerate it's healing process. By only truly revealing what was used in Dato' stem cell treatment can give us a clear picture what procedure he was given (and i am not surprised if there is) and this will make things more interesting.
 
kwun said:
Or why did he nor BAM realize that perhaps they should've filed a TUE?
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Simple. They messed up the pharmacokinetics estimates.

And also there's no TUE for dexamethasone for in competition as his thigh injury is not considered a medically threatening condition that requires treatment with steroids... unlike asthma, allergic reaction, arthritis, or even hemorrhoids... ;)
 
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visor said:
It is possible that his stem cell therapy may have contained steroids, as it seems that steroids boost the effectiveness of the stem cells. As reported in this scientific article in Apr 2014.

Performance-enhanced mesenchymal stem cells via intracellular delivery of steroids

http://www.nature.com/srep/2014/140410/srep04645/full/srep04645.html
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visor said:
Simple. They messed up the pharmacokinetics estimates.

And also there's no TUE for dexamethasone for in competition as his thigh injury is not considered a medically threatening condition that requires treatment with steroids... unlike asthma, allergic reaction, arthritis, or even hemorrhoids... ;)
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Sounds almost right. It is either he got the pharmacokinetics estimates wrong or he used some stuff unknowingly.

Risks were taken as a result of too much trust in someone and naivity on his part.
 
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