Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

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  1. eaglehelang

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    Cheung

    Dr Ramlan, the NSI chief also said the player is regularly tested, more like often tested cos he is top player. See yesterday's Star article posted in this thread. NSI is the Sports science institute .

    This is not 1st time LCW went thru stem cell treatment. After his Achilles surgery he had this treatment. So, all the while ok, with same hospital, same primary doctor. If I'm the patient, sure I trust the doctors. Unless this time different doctor.

    Thats y I said heads will roll from medical team, the tone of the Sports Minister's 1st statement can see.

    LCW, well, he can finally rest, concentrate on his various businesses, more time with wmc and Kingston .
     
  2. eaglehelang

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    In the Msian forums, the general sentiment among the sympathetic ones is LCW can finally take a break, if B turns out positive. LCW wanted to retire after OG 2012, but was asked to stay on, 'see, see, they push2 our Datuk, he cannot take it any longer.'

    The non sympathetic ones, well, condemn upside down. Cannot mention what they say, under sensitive category in BC.::D
     
  3. nokh88

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    Courtesy of FMT :

    Why so hush-hush over Lee Chong Wei?
    Sandra John
    October 25, 2014

    Is he guilty of taking banned substances or is something more sinister lurking under our noses?

    COMMENT

    We distrust our leaders because the concept of transparency is alien to them. They may say it’s what they advocate, but they rarely mean it.

    Half-truths, noncommittal responses and, in some cases, maddening stretches of silence are the preferred mode of crisis management while a plausible Plan B is hastily hatched and despatched.

    And so it goes in the case of Lee Chong Wei, our darling of badminton, who recently tested positive for a banned substance called dexamethasone.

    Instead of coughing up the badminton player’s identity, Minister of Youth and Sports Khairy Jamaluddin simply referred to him as the country’s “top athlete”, a big hint in itself, and waited instead for other parties to break the news.

    Now that the cat is out of the bag, it makes no sense that some officials are still refusing to name the athlete in question when giving their comments on the doping scandal that has rocked the nation.

    National Sports Institute chief executive officer Ramlan Aziz will only refer to Lee as “this particular athlete” even as he vouches for Lee’s “exemplary behaviour”.

    Putrajaya (no surprises, here) has also refused to confirm the athlete’s identity despite TV3, The Star and just about every other Malaysian knowing it is Lee.

    If, as has been proffered, Lee tested positive for a banned substance he unknowingly consumed or used topically, then why the secrecy? Why the scandalised silence and the refusal to acknowledge the elephant in the room?

    Do these ministers and officials not realise that the more they attempt to conceal information from the public, the more it looks like a crime has knowingly been committed?

    Any amount of upright (and usually uptight) statements to the press about “zero tolerance”, “accountability”, and “thorough investigations” come off sounding like painfully rehearsed public relations lines that fool no one, especially a growingly disgruntled public that know better than to lap up the sweet nothings of government officials.

    Despite what our ministers and sports officials think, Lee’s fans run into the hundreds of thousands and many are rooting for him, hoping he comes out of this scandal with some semblance of dignity and already forgiving him for unknowingly having taken a banned substance.

    Many still see him as the nation’s pride, Malaysia’s proud son of badminton and a sportsman of high repute.

    Even council members of the Badminton Association of Malaysia have registered their utter frustration at being kept in the dark as to the identity of the athlete.

    Is it not somewhat pathetic that BAM council members have to hold an emergency council meeting Sunday to talk “officially” about what remains the unofficial identity of one of their athletes?

    Dexamethasone has already been identified as a steroid medication with anti-inflammatory effects and not a performance-enhancing drug. So Lee used it to soothe an ache, not boost his performance on the court.

    The world survived Lance Armstrong, Florence Griffith Joyner, Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery and Trevor Graham. These athletes knowingly ingested banned substances.

    Our Wushu exponent Tai Cheau Xuen failed a drug test because she unknowingly took a banned substance. If this is also the case with Lee, isn’t it about time Malaysia stood up for him instead of whisper in corners, too embarrassed about the international humiliation?

    The cloak-and-dagger manoeuvrings are uncalled for. So are mysterious meetings that no one wants to own up to.

    Since no answers are as yet forthcoming, are we to assume the meeting our minister had with Lee was not over the doping scandal but over something with more serious undertones?

    There is already unpleasant mutterings about match-fixing involving a Malaysian fixer. A police report on the matter has already been lodged by the Badminton World Federation after two Danish players complained about being approached to “throw” a match.

    The silence surrounding Lee is doing nothing to dispel our fears that something larger and far more humiliating and criminal is lurking in the shadows.

    Time for some answers, please.
     
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    Sure. I admit my post was rather simplistic and unfair.
     
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    nokh88,

    Unfotunately, Malaysian govt officials are not well known for their crisis management PR skills, as was with the case with Malaysian airlines MH370 incident...
     
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    Yah, sad to see that it has come to this...

    And even sadder to see that Malaysian fans can attack their own hero. What is it about Malaysian fans that can sometimes seem to turn on their own athlete? I've seen how they can do that with KKK or sometimes one of the backup team players... when they're obviously struggling on court and don't do well, they get booed by their own fans!

    No other country does that to their own players!
     
  7. eaglehelang

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    Well, well, the plot thickens :
    http://www.hmetro.com.my/node/3998

    Those who can read malay, take note last 2 paragraphs. Later I will translate, after I'm back home.
     
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    See above.
     
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    Buyer's beware. If he sues the stem cell people, they will claim that he is a willing patient. If one is naive, then if something goes wrong, you pay your own price unless a guarantee was signed that said there is no steroid in the treatment.

    I doubt it was the stem cell treatment.
     
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    1st few paragraphs quotes a NSI expert who declines to be named.
    The NSI expert said
    - dont think it's the stem cell treatment, it doesnt last so long in the body.
    - dont think it's pain killer either cos pain killer does not contain dexamethasone

    Expert thinks it could have been some other meds LCW took during the tournament. Expert does not know if LCW filled up the relevant documentation abt usage of meds(the TUE form)

    last 2 paragraphs. same as NST article, speculation that it could have been the stem cell injection.
    Metro quoting 'close friend of LCW'. And that LCW only had 3 stem cell injections & did not take any meds during WC .
     
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    What is he suing for? Did the stem cell people sign a form saying the treatment don't use any banned substance for professional athletes?
     
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    I know it's just another conspiracy theory, but dang, looking at this it's not that difficult to sabotage an athlete's career. :eek:

    All it takes is a bit of this or that med laced in the drink or food or gift snack!
     
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    I'd think that top-level athletes are cautioned or discouraged about any treatment outside of the approved list of people they are supposed to deal with. And that all their prescriptions, meds or treatment should be first scrutinized or approved by knowledgable people or the resident doctor of BAM (do they have one?) to ensure the athlete isn't inadvertently taking banned substances.

    Lastly, I'd think the athlete (the more high-profile, the more severely) would make sure he's gotten approval before he does anything anywhere with meds, treatment etc.

    And that all meds, treatment etc are provided only by people on the approved list.

    Of course, it doesn't always work so smoothly in real life. But if the athlete has done his due diligence, it should be easy to pinpoint exactly what went wrong, and where. Then we wouldn't have so many apparently conflicting reports or conjectures.
     
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    BAM is bunch of incompetent people. KBA has some missteps but they are admitting their mistakes.
     
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    Is the CBSL sanctioned by the BWF?
     
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    i don't think he can play.

    this weekend there is a local event that Lance Armstrong wanted to participate in, but since the event is sanctioned by USA Cycling, the WADA code says he cannot participate. similarly, if CBSL is sanctioned by the CBA, then it also means due to the same WADA code LCW won't be able to participate in CBSL.
     
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    Sorry for the double post
     
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    IF there is Dexa used as part of the treatment components and Dato' did sign a consent form prior to the procedure then the twist will be get even deeper.
     

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