Rexy is determined to arrest slide

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Pemuda said:
Actually, I have said it many times here that KKK/TBH have lost it. Many here are eager to jump on the KKK/TBH bandwagon and say that I was being negative etc. These bandwagoners provided a long list of 'excuses' like "they are still young, too much expectations and pressure, everyone now knows their game, they will bounce back stronger etc etc" .

Now, Rexy has come out in the open and the man has had enough. And seriously, Rexy dont deserve all this. He is a champion and a winner. I have said it for him to stay and coach these two dead beats is a waste of time and energy.
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These two 'deadbeats' as you call them may not be that bad if what was reported (their egos overwhelming their relationship) can be repaired and they are made to understand their actions. The excuses that you indicated are valid because THEY ARE YOUNG (no two ways about it) and don't fully know their actions (their big egos) are not conducive to BADMINTON TEAM MALAYSIA.

When I was young I had an ego too, and still have, but not as big as theirs.:D KKK and TBH may be influenced externally (as reported in the Berita Harian) and if they have been, it shows they lack maturity. To give up without trying to educate them, would mean Malaysia has to start again with a new pair. As a fan, I would rather not see that. I would use my energy to counsel them until they get it right. The Chinese have a saying that if you don't fight you won't know each other -- let them get their steam out and learn to live with each other. I am pretty sure they will get their act together -- it would be stupid to carry on otherwise.
 
X Ball said:
Pemuda, do you really need to xplain (I am tired, should not have even mentioned it) ?

Anyway for this once, Proton has for many years pushed their dealers to accept cars (on consignment sometimes) to make numbers. A lot of the cars are left in the dealers' stockyards. At the same time, the market has shrunked with the AP's given to so many would-be businessmen pushing NAZA, HYUNDAI, CHEVIIES, etc. So the market is not big in totality. With consolidation, Proton has eased the manufacturing somewhat and for the stocks held, they are giving discounts to dealers to push the SAGA's, Perdana's, etc. out quickly. Similarly, with MAS, they have cut back all the non-profitable routes, which were part of an expansion program before (but now they realise, it is not the growth/revenues that matters, it is the profit -- by reducing the revenues from cutting of routes, they are actually making profit). MAS and Proton are good companies with huge potentials but sometimes marketing plans were too ambitious and these companies suffer. With new people on-board, they are obviously scaling back to make profits.

Badminton can also be up and down because certain policies that looked good at the time may not work, so BAM does the right thing by correcting it (as in Proton and MAS). If, we totally blast BAM, then perhaps it is not fair.
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My dear,

You need to be consistent. You are all over now, neither here nor there with your explaination.

On your claims that Proton has pushed their dealers to accept their cars ... are you saying those dealers of BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Nissan, Kia were never 'pushed' by their parent company into taking in more cars?? :rolleyes:

On the APs given to push Naza, Hyundai & Cheviies ... this is called competition. Tell that to companies like IBM, Sony, Shell, SIA.

MAS & Proton good companies?? Hmmm ... if they are good as what you claimed them to be, how come they are not global players yet?? Compare MAS to SIA for example. Proton if they claimed to make good cars, how come we dont see Protons abroad??

You still have not explain how MAS & Proton have outgrown the market.

Good policies will set you right in the long run. Half cooked policies will only address short term gains. Same applies to badminton.
 
wow..Pemuda and X-ball will start any star wars soon.....keep calm.....i know both of you love your country men to win.....may be Xball should invite Pemuda for lunch and talk heart to heart....now..he is your date...Xball....hehe
 
samuel882 said:
Just becoz of a young pair failed over & over again & suggest REXY to Leave MAS? Come on.. Growth up guys... We are not the one who can decided his future.. I believe MAS still have endless pool of talented MD players besides KKK/TBH who are desperate for a successful career in Badminton Arena..
and if REXY back to INa , a wholesome change of PBSI administration will be expected,
Where will they stand? for those MD coach like Sigit Pamungkas, who coached the INA World Champs ?? Sacked them to accommodate for REXY??
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Not suggesting, just voicing an opinion like everyone here. There is a difference between suggesting and voicing an opinion.
And yes come on ... grow up, not 'growth up'.
 
huangkwokhau said:
wow..Pemuda and X-ball will start any star wars soon.....keep calm.....i know both of you love your country men to win.....may be Xball should invite Pemuda for lunch and talk heart to heart....now..he is your date...Xball....hehe
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Definitely not a one-on-one lunch.. The Flames will be hard to stop :D:D
 
Pemuda said:
My dear,

You need to be consistent. You are all over now, neither here nor there with your explaination.

On your claims that Proton has pushed their dealers to accept their cars ... are you saying those dealers of BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Nissan, Kia were never 'pushed' by their parent company into taking in more cars?? :rolleyes:

On the APs given to push Naza, Hyundai & Cheviies ... this is called competition. Tell that to companies like IBM, Sony, Shell, SIA.

MAS & Proton good companies?? Hmmm ... if they are good as what you claimed them to be, how come they are not global players yet?? Compare MAS to SIA for example. Proton if they claimed to make good cars, how come we dont see Protons abroad??

You still have not explain how MAS & Proton have outgrown the market.

Good policies will set you right in the long run. Half cooked policies will only address short term gains. Same applies to badminton.
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What, after that long xplanation, you said I have not explained why they have outgrown the market ? I give up.
 
X Ball said:
These two 'deadbeats' as you call them may not be that bad if what was reported (their egos overwhelming their relationship) can be repaired and they are made to understand their actions. The excuses that you indicated are valid because THEY ARE YOUNG (no two ways about it) and don't fully know their actions (their big egos) are not conducive to BADMINTON TEAM MALAYSIA.

When I was young I had an ego too, and still have, but not as big as theirs.:D KKK and TBH may be influenced externally (as reported in the Berita Harian) and if they have been, it shows they lack maturity. To give up without trying to educate them, would mean Malaysia has to start again with a new pair. As a fan, I would rather not see that. I would use my energy to counsel them until they get it right. The Chinese have a saying that if you don't fight you won't know each other -- let them get their steam out and learn to live with each other. I am pretty sure they will get their act together -- it would be stupid to carry on otherwise.
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The molly cuddling continues!

Well, Rexy who has won everything in badminton mens' doubles is kinda fed up and may not want to coach this two young superstars anymore. Shall we get another coach who is more pleasing to the eye so that we can slowly nurture, counsel these two young superstars?

And if they fall flat in Beijing next year, its ok because they are still young. They are All England champion and we must treasure such gems.

Malaysia really Boleh!
 
X Ball said:
What, after that long xplanation, you said I have not explained why they have outgrown the market ? I give up.
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Well, if that is your outgrown the market explaination then I guess they need to update the business school in Harvard University. ;)
 
X Ball said:
And you don't address a guy by "my dear" unless you are......urggggggh yak.:D
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Why?? you have a problem with your sexuality or something you have any inclination towards??

Dude, no worries man. Even if you are a "urggggggh yak" , it is not an issue with me.
 
Pemuda said:
Why?? you have a problem with your sexuality or something you have any inclination towards??

Dude, no worries man. Even if you are a "urggggggh yak" , it is not an issue with me.
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:D:D PEMUDA is very open minded..I like that.......:D:D X-ball..Pemuda can accept who you are.....wow..I am really bad....gotta wait in 10 minutes to call for results.....:D:D
 
Pemuda said:
Why?? you have a problem with your sexuality or something you have any inclination towards??

Dude, no worries man. Even if you are a "urggggggh yak" , it is not an issue with me.
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Thank you for the conversation, it was interesting when it lasted.
 
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