The genius of LYB - TC Match ups & Rankings

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  1. madbad

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    Only and only if LD can overtake CJ in the World Rankings. Otherwise it's a moot point
     
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    Not really surprise, we will know the list of players bf TC starts, max 10 mah. Perhaps stratch pair, XU Chen with either CB or ZN, CB/ZN still not experienced enough. :)
     
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    Like some pointed out, it can still be LD/ Bao/Chen Long. CL vs other MS3 still can, except when vs Simon Santoso
     
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    Heard that the teams are limited to 10
    players max. According to you what would be Lyb's selection ?
    Ld,Bcl,Chen Long,Chen Jin,Guo Zhendong, Xu Chen, Fhf,Yun Cai they are already 8
     
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    After a few minutes of reasoning, I think they can also select Yu Li and Nan Zhang
     
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    Surprise/Scratch, It is a surprise if China field a scratch pair shall I say!
     
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    CL is inexperienced. To play him at MS3 would be a huge risk, especially when everything is on the line. He might crumble under the pressure a la KBH and have irreparable mental issues thereafter. I don't think LYB would risk this. BCL is almost a certain win at MS3. Therefore it is imperative that LD recapture the MS1 position.
     
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    A crushing Third singles defeat didn't do Zhang Ning any harm in 1994.....................
     
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    Everyone has a different mental makeup. You can always find players who have been affected by this type of defeat and not. With hindsight we all know how Zhang Ning turned out.
     
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    I agree that you should be careful with young talents, but at 20 surely it is time CL had a pressure match to make a name for himself? After all surely it is equally huge a risk playing BCL, who is known for his mental fragility.

    Sooner or later he will have to handle some big pressure, and I think generally long term effects are not so big, if they are mentally weak, they are weak. KBH had issues way before TC.......
     
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    I think LYB would ideally like to wrap it up before it gets to MS3. You know he is a master of protecting his players and not exposing their weaknesses. If indeed CL caves in under the pressure, it could give everyone a boost of confidence. In the long run players may not be as intimidated to play him.

    Given the choice at MS3, I reiterate my preference for BCL over CL.

    But like you said, CL should be able to handle playing at this level. But the TC is not a normal tournament. And KBH should never have been fielded in the first place :cool:.
     
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    I agree with everything, but if BCL is MS3 then CJ would be MS1 - surely that would be a bigger risk since that would mean more likely go to MS3 in any case?
     
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    All will be revealed after the upcoming ABC to see if LD can overtake CJ in the world rankings. LYB must be wearing down his worry beads over this, haha.

    If LD succeeds, then it'll be LD, CJ and BCL in that order, and all will be well in LYB's world again :D
     
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    Perhaps so, since China seldom field stratch pair. Korea & INA like to do that. Since Rexy coach Msia, also start to do same thing.
    But China did do it in 2009 Sudirman vs Korea, remember Zheng Bo/Yu Yang. They clinched the 1st pt, thereafter China won the tie.
     
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    I don't think KKK/TBH can beat CY/FHF or JJS/LYD if they play like the recent back-to-back super series... although they did beat Boe/Mogensen. But, I will still fully support them.
    However, it seems that CY/FHF is down at ranked 9. So, they would most probably face GZD/XC instead. So, I think if LCW can get a point and KKK/TBH gets a point, Malaysia will be 2-0 up. Of course, KKK/TBH can be upset... and LCW might not win. If CJ is back at MS#2, he should be able to take care of Hafiz and MAS's MD#2 and MS#3 are just not strong enough.
     
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    i'm sticking to my original point that with CHN's MS order as CJ, LD & BCL, even based on current form LD & BCL will be certain 2 points against any team and with CJ at MS1 with the exception of LCW again he is better any other MS1 around. with against LCW i'd witnessed CJ destroyed LCW in 2 easy games in AE.
     
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    can't understand your meaning, kindly re-quote...:cool:
     
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    I think he means even with CJ as MS1 he can still beat LCW, then LD & BCL should also take there MS2 & MS3 points.
     
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    The chances of LD, CJ and BCL defeating LCW at the 2010 TC

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    IMHO, the chances 0f LD, CJ and BCL defeating LCW at the 2010 Thomas Cup are:-
    LD:LCW ..... 50:50
    CJ:LCW ..... 40:60
    BCL:LCW ... 30:70

    Hope this doesn't offend/upset any BCers. This is just my opinion.
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