In regarding to strength training/perfect form: It all depends on how strong are you physically. If you were a big smasher, obviously you would want more power. For me, who is less physically powerfully, I would rather learn to do a better stroke rather than increasing power. The following is out of the topic, but since i train for single comp, i rather focus on footwork. If i only get x amount of time to train before a comp due to work commitment, i would rather concentrate on footwork and train for endurance basing on the principle of "if you can't get there, you just gonna keep clearing" and being a big smasher does not help. Anyway, that's why i hate those singles comp with new scoring system one off match instead of best of three. Hell, we might get some upset if international are all one off match with new scoring system!
wtf... Mark A says Morning all, Whatever you do, don't bother with wrist curls. They might give you forearms thicker than a horse's leg but they won't increase power for badminton shots (the racket is held ACROSS the hand so there is no point flexing or extending the wrist; the racket will just twist in place!) The muscles of interest in badminton are the pronator quadratus (about the size and shape of a PostIt note and lying on the forearm just below where the palm starts) and the supinator (running from the elbow to about 1/3 the way down the forearm whilst twisting around it). JR is spot on with the squash racket exercise (or you could shadow some shots with the head cover on your racket). The main point is just to perform the movement you wish to strengthen while adding some resistance. You say wrist curls I'm confused now can anyone clarify if wrist curls do actually help with badminton
i highly doubt wrist curls help with badminton... just get a squash racket and do some swings in your free time... thats what i do..
Shadow badminton (like shadow boxing)? Squash racket or not, I have heard many chinese coaches train their children without shuttle for quite a long time at a young age. It certainly helps, once the shuttle comes, you just gonna worry about hitting the shuttle.
about powerball, i have one of them, and i am not joking when i say that using it for 10 minutes straight as hard as you can is very tiring. my score is only 11000rpm
That is not quite right although you don't get to play a game for a long time. When you train in China it will be sometime before you get to play an actual game. This approach has to be explained to the kids before they start else they will get bored. They drill you with fundamentals first, teaching you where power and touch come from the different ways of holding a grip and executing all the different strokes. Then comes the serves and receiving serves which can be as long as 2 hours. The third is footwork, followed by stroke production, basic strategy, physical training, prevention of injuries. After all these you then get to play a game to practise what you have learned, but only after 14 hours of learning the basics first.
To Taneepak: Sound like you are a knowledgeable person yourself, did you learn all that through being coach, or reading badminton book? Shadow badminton is not for everyone. On the bored part, that's so true when i see experienced players go through coaching. Man, they are bored whenever they don't get to play with the shuttle. Well, you know there are still some players who want to learn to "kill" as in 100% smash everytime someone lift high. Hence, the people who want more power rather than knowing how to get there (footwork) to execute the shot. That might be enough for beginner. But man, i need more than 14 hours of coaching after playing with bad habits for 2 years.
10 minutes straight as hard as you can?! I just picked up a PowerBall by DynaFlex and even going a minute at max is tiring for me.
okay i didn't mean non stop perse, i mean trying your top speed reting a second than trying again! see the website, the world record is over 16000
I believe I have found a very easy and very effective way to strengthen the wrist. I have been trying this out for a few months and in that time my wrist strength -- especially my backhand -- has really developed. Are any of you familiar with the cardboard shaped liked a racquet head that goes with a brand new yonex racquet? I cut out a similar shape on a piece of cardboard and attach them to an old racquet then I practice flicks, backhands, smashes and backhand smashes in my room -- the resistance caused by the cardboard over the strings is just enough so as not to cause injury but just enough to really develop your wrist. Using racquets of other sports to develop your wrist sometimes result in injury especially with flicks but with the cardboard covering the racquet head the weight is more or less the same but with resistance. It especially works for the backhand. After practicing with the covered racquet and using your usual racquet it feels as light as a feather and all your strokes have increased power -- I also use it for warming up.
You can fill up a 2 litre or 1 litre of water in a large bottle, hold the neck and do a figure of 8 from backhand to forehand, to strengthen your wrist. At the end of the exercise you can drink the water! This is taught, but not the drinking part, in the Zhao Jian Hua dvds.
Speaking of wrist strengthening.. ..i wonder how or what method(s) did Mr. Federer use/learn/train with to build/develop his devastating backhand (or for that matter his forehand as well) shot/stroke??..hmm
Sounds like a great training exercise to me I can just do this absentmindedly while watching TV or something... great stuff
Take A Look Please Perhaps this link might be of some interest in this discussion. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=491821&posted=1#post491821
Mind you, the coach must have been watching the movie called "36 houses of Shao Lin" with Gordon Lau in it. Cos one of the segment, he had to train for balance and guess what - he put 2 buckets of water on his shoulder and walk up the hill and put in the bowl and had to do it again! You know, the kung fu master from both Kill Bill, he was the master with hair teaching Uma Thurman kung fu in vol 2 and one of the head henchmen in vol 1.
Right O, i didn't realise the correct english name. I wonder what other movies the badminton coaches has drawn technique from - maybe eating 10 eggs like Rocky? - drinking wines before badminton matches like jacky chan in drunken master? - painting fences like Mr miyagi in the first karate kid? - maybe locking 2 players in an underground hall forcing them to smash badminton shuttle to each other's body like in saw? Anyhow, even that 36 chambers of shaolin had way more training techinques, remember that part when Gordon Lau had to use that wooden bowl as leverage to go across the dining hall? Badminton coaches might want to make their building that way. Gee, maybe the badminton coaches can make their
i think painting fences like Mr Miyagi in the first karate kid can really improve your wrist muscle endurance. haha, Up down, up down. I remember he was pissed off at first when he was told to paint the house. I think the best way to develop still is using a squash racket and is very common.
sorry to bring this up again: my question- if you use a heavier racket to train arm, wouldn't this affect your timing? if so, how to go about countering this? thanks alot
