Habisin-Habisin
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So that mean you come from Pontianak West Kalimantan (borneo) ?
Paris 2024 Olympics - Final Day, 5 August 2024
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nokh88
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Thanks for the update.
GMT got bronze without going on court.
Correction, she won matches beforehand in the tournament to get to that position.
nokh88
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I mean the bronze play-off match.
Yes. I went to Kuching too last month. The last time i went to Kuching was in 2017 (MalaysiaOpen) where LinDan vs LCW met in the Final for the last time.
Wow things are really getting heated between KBA & ASY.
Said spend 11Mill won just for her and many more things. They are fighting over business flight tickets as well myyy.
He even mentions SonHeungMin. If you expect to get the treatment like him then whatever we give will never be enough.
Said spend 11Mill won just for her and many more things. They are fighting over business flight tickets as well myyy.
He even mentions SonHeungMin. If you expect to get the treatment like him then whatever we give will never be enough.
Habisin-Habisin
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She actually wanted to go to court but Marin couldn't come, so it wasn't GMT's fault.
I read the interview and to me what she asked seems normal. she's the the current world #1, olympic/world/AG champion...asking for business flight & comfortable shoes seems normal to me. KBA also said she doesn't like seniority culture (I read that one of her senior asked her to do laundry when she was injured, she probably felt disrespected by it)
INA far better. IND without a gold!.
Its funny whether in winning or losing, Netizens always blame the federations lol. For me, I dont see the complains that ASY should be making. I cant remember Axelsen complaining so much. He just went about his business. If ASY thinks KBA blocked her growth, then she should do what Axelsen did. Korean federation have set of rules and BangSooHyun has came out with her comments too.
For Indonesian athletes, havent heard anything from them blaming the federation. They can complain about the injury management to INA MS and etc but this is not a new thing. It has happened to say EdyS, RosyitaEka and etc.
However, the athletes at Olympics get the best treatment, accompdation, etc. There are simply no excuses.
Baddyforall
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When ASY openly blamed her association, I thought she need maturity. Instead of bringing that up openly, she should have gone to association first and talk through. Nevertheless, maturity will come with age. She will learn it.
axelsen could do what he did because he knew denmark federation wouldnt mess with him if he decided to go pro. bka is not the same. did people forget that ksh/sbc had to file a lawsuit because bka wouldn't let them participate in international competition ? now what do you think gonna happen if a 22 year old star decided to quit the national team and start play indepedently ?
if you read her interview since the beginning you would know that bka never gave any explanation regarding everything even if she asked, it's how they operate. that's why asy said she didn't like the whole system inside bka
i'm sure she would happily quit the national team if that means she still can play as an independent player and bka wouldn't make it hard for her, but instead she was talking about retirement at the age of 22 like do you know how insane that is lol
if you read her interview since the beginning you would know that bka never gave any explanation regarding everything even if she asked, it's how they operate. that's why asy said she didn't like the whole system inside bka
i'm sure she would happily quit the national team if that means she still can play as an independent player and bka wouldn't make it hard for her, but instead she was talking about retirement at the age of 22 like do you know how insane that is lol
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Justafan90
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While i think her demands are reasonable, business class etc and its evident players from other countries usually travel business class but she represents south korea. If other players in korea do not get it, should she get special treatment because she is world no 1? Being olympic champion and world no 1 can only hold so much weight, i dont think she realizes it yet. Hopefully with the public on her side, it will end well.
you have a point but from what i read she only asked for business class because of her injury. if i remember correctly the article also said her club (samsung insurance life) were actually willing to pay for the ticket but bka refused it
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extremenanopowe
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Difficult to compare who is the GOAT coz it will be form of the day. Eg, if Yang yang or Lindan or Viktor is in their best form, anyone of them can win. So, it is pointless.
You can only compare the medals won. Eg, for now Viktor is the GOAT of MS Olympics. ASY may surpass the rest in the future if she wins 2028 and 2032.
You can only compare the medals won. Eg, for now Viktor is the GOAT of MS Olympics. ASY may surpass the rest in the future if she wins 2028 and 2032.
not all federations are run the same. some have idiotic assholes collecting a paycheck running the show, others have clueless political snakes, and so on. to think one athlete from one country can do similar things as another country is to not understand how worldwide badminton is run.
obviously bka doesn't listen or care about the athletes that much. bka's historic behavior has proven it. publicly shaming them might be the only way to make change.
however, bka likes having og gold medalists. did you know lee yong-dae was excused from mandatory military service because he won olympic gold? so it's not wrong when an se-young says “One of the reasons I ran so hard to win the Olympics was because I wanted my voice to be a little more powerful...”
Simeon
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Lin Dan vs Lee Chong Wei 21-12, 21-8 2008 Oly
j4ckie
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This is a very bad take. She openly said she already voiced all these concerns with her association, yet they ignored it, so now she's doing it publicly with the weight of the OG gold adding to her voice. While this is not proof, the BKA's track record (e.g. with LYD, KSH, SBC, KSR, KKJ) certainly makes it seem very likely that she's telling the truth without exaggerations.
What people like you don't seem to grasp - sometimes you've exhausted all avenues and any further talks behind closed doors are a waste of time. It's the same in any other profession as well. At that time, it's the most effective to end those efforts and either go public (like she did), start legal actions (like those other athletes did) or look for another employer (not an option I think possible here, I do not believe she would push it as far as starting to play for another country).
If that request is true, that's absolutely wild to me. Where I'm from, people would laugh in your face if you requested sth like that from them. Also, what the f*ck did that person think made them senior? It's clear she's by far the best Korean badminton player atm, why would it matter if someone else played longer when they achieved nothing comparable? Even if you are accomplished, this would still be an unreasonable request imo.
Hardline seniority (automatically assuming superiority just because you've been around longer, or are older) is a ridiculous concept that often leads to disincentivising proactivity and disadvantages strong performers. It's often favored by below average performers because it gives them an avenue to superiority when they have no others.
While I agree that you should (in general) respect your seniors and try to learn from them and their experiences, seniority alone is no virtue or achievement.
While I happen to share your preference for MD, I disagree with the premise that favorites winning titles is a bad thing or boring. LD was the favorite going into the 2011 AE/WC and 2012 AE/OG, yet those were incredibly exciting competitions, none of them lessend by him actually winning 3/4.
Upsets aren't a metric of 'excitement'. They're usually an indicator of bad competition format, unstable favorites, or very tight competition.
This year's MD is a mixed case of both an incredibly strong performance by Lee/Yang, weak performance by Rankireddy/Shetty, and a lousy competition format (4x4 groups, only seeding 4 teams - at the very least, seed 8 and draw the others from 2 pools of 4, or 4/5 if you're stupid enough to mess up the qualification).
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