Singapore Open 2006 Qualifying Rounds

[EastDevil]

I agreed with u on this... They probably have to stop importing players from china n indonesia.. We would like to see all true singaoreans on court...

You are just another one of those. As a Singaporean, I do not mind seeing anyone representing Singapore. Who cares what you would like.

Anyway, I apologize for my hash language. I just find that foreign talent bashing is something very silly to do.

 

[EastDevil]

well, what you have said is certain true enuff.. but this has gone on too long.. do you realised that singapore has imported foreign players in most of the sports not only badminton? I guess singapore needs more foreign coaches to coach thier national players rather than non stop importing... U have competition, but it doesnt help much on ur improvement.. that's what i think

The fact is this foreign talent scheme was created because of the shortcomings of so-called "local" sportsmen. Our local champions are not working hard enough. Imagine having an employee who is the best you have but yet is not good enough. You cannot fire him and promote someone else in your company he is already the best in the company, so the only way is to headhunt from outside the company.

 

[hara^kazuko]

You are just another one of those. As a Singaporean, I do not mind seeing anyone representing Singapore. Who cares what you would like.

I would assume that not every singaporean thinks as what you think... Well, you wouldnt need country name on the back of ur shirt if everyone thinks like dat...

Singaporeans had told me that they would like to see singaporeans on court.. u got to told them " who cares what you guys like?"

 

[Simp84]

I need to knock everthing you said above.

How can it be -- population does not matter ? Of course, it does if you have more people, there is a better chance that you will come across someone who would stand up. You are taking Denmark as an example which is different as badminton is almost a national game there as you said (after football). But if you take Singapore, there is less chance that a player of any calibre would come through the rank.

Passion is not the only factor else LOH would be winning the SO and IO ! Government support is also important -- the Australian Institute of Sport was formed to promote science into sports and helped Aussies to excel, and that was the factor that produced Ian Thorpe, Klim, etc.

Malaysians play to stay out of 'hellhole' ? What kind of spin is that ? BAM pays pittance and the only way to survive is to win. Your contradiction is obvious --- firstly we play because of passion and then we play because we want to get out of the 'hellhole'.

Sorry - I have to advise you I am not buying anything you said.

Oo.. sorry i must clarify "hellhole"
You see I came from small town in malaysia, and some of my friend lives in poverty... ie like sometimes dont even eat lunch type
He picked up badminton when he was form1(age13) and begins to train...
He will skip class for the sake of badminton... and he told me everyone who joined badminton was desperately attempting to made it to state player, they will travel far far to where professional coach train them for a minimum fee.. some of them just wanted to get out of "hellhole" thus...... ya I hope that clarifies it

Oh ya and population plays a role to certain extend... however like I say... look @ small country population like NZ they still manage to produce Gold medalist in Olympic... and compare to malaysia/singapore... we got egg

 

[Simp84]

The fact is this foreign talent scheme was created because of the shortcomings of so-called "local" sportsmen. Our local champions are not working hard enough. Imagine having an employee who is the best you have but yet is not good enough. You cannot fire him and promote someone else in your company he is already the best in the company, so the only way is to headhunt from outside the company.

I think singaporean parents are teaching kids how to make more money than focusing on what they like to do (badminton)

 

[EastDevil]

I would assume that not every singaporean thinks as what you think... Well, you wouldnt need country name on the back of ur shirt if everyone thinks like dat...

Singaporeans had told me that they would like to see singaporeans on court.. u got to told them " who cares what you guys like?"

We all WOULD like to see, that's why this foreign talent scheme was created. The scheme is not the ultimate solution, it is just a supporting solution to eventually allow us to fulfill our wish to see "singaporeans" on the court. Some of those you spoke to are likely to be the narrowminded ones.

One thing is, immigrants are also Singaporeans!

 

[hara^kazuko]

The fact is this foreign talent scheme was created because of the shortcomings of so-called "local" sportsmen. Our local champions are not working hard enough. Imagine having an employee who is the best you have but yet is not good enough. You cannot fire him and promote someone else in your company he is already the best in the company, so the only way is to headhunt from outside the company.

i think they have tried hard.. but they just nid another type of training environment... U got to have coaches who are really pressing you onto it...

Yet sometimes I think that this foreign talent scheme may cause some negtives sides... What if singaporean players would not try hard because there are always ppl ahead of them will do it for them? If they are once playing as the best of singapore, i guess they would try to improve n show to the others that singapore can manage it too...

 

[EastDevil]

I think singaporean parents are teaching kids how to make more money than focusing on what they like to do (badminton)

That was always the problem in the past and probably even now. I would not say it was wrong, but it is just how we started. Its a growing process.

 

[hara^kazuko]

We all WOULD like to see, that's why this foreign talent scheme was created. The scheme is not the ultimate solution, it is just a supporting solution to eventually allow us to fulfill our wish to see "singaporeans" on the court. Some of those you spoke to are likely to be the narrowminded ones.

One thing is, immigrants are also Singaporeans!

if you guys would like to see, so you couldnt say that "some of those you spoke to are likely yo be the narrowminded ones"... U talked like we are definite on the singaporean nationality thing n we are too narrow-minded enough to speak on these occassions..

 

[EastDevil]

i think they have tried hard.. but they just nid another type of training environment... U got to have coaches who are really pressing you onto it...

Yet sometimes I think that this foreign talent scheme may cause some negtives sides... What if singaporean players would not try hard because there are always ppl ahead of them will do it for them? If they are once playing as the best of singapore, i guess they would try to improve n show to the others that singapore can manage it too...

The coaches cannot push them too hard because the players' ultra-ridiculous protective parents/spouse will force them to quit or the players simply quit because they do not have that mentality. I remember Zhao Jian Hua said something about dedication and living badminton.

I agree that there could be side effects, unfortunately, we do not have a better solution unless we use unreasonable and extreme methods like putting players at gun point or torture. We'll just have to live with the more acceptable solution for now.

There's always a possibility that some ultra hardcore badminton nut might pop up somehow who happen to have good family nurturing, etc like Tiger Woods in golf. But it is worst than lottery.

 

[hara^kazuko]

The coaches cannot push them too hard because the players' ultra-ridiculous protective parents/spouse will force them to quit or the players simply quit because they do not have that mentality. I remember Zhao Jian Hua said something about dedication and living badminton.

I agree that there could be side effects, unfortunately, we do not have a better solution unless we use unreasonable and extreme methods like putting players at gun point or torture. We'll just have to live with the more acceptable solution for now.

There's always a possibility that some ultra hardcore badminton nut might pop up somehow who happen to have good family nurturing, etc like Tiger Woods in golf. But it is worst than lottery.

that's better now... so im just telling you that im not definite about the singaporean nationality or something... it's just what we think.. you dont tell me better not to think bout it cause we are narrow-minded enuff not to think about the good sides it has

 

[sickgal]

LOL~ thats the spirit man~ we need passion rather than talent
I would rather play a passionate lousy player than a pro guy who is cocky and all about show

totally agrees with you mate....

 

[cklee]

Frens all of you are absolutely correct. Passion is all it takes in this game. i play 5 times a day for 3 hours each time since 1962 and i still love the game more than my wife. The chinese are sweeping every miserable trophy cos they have fire and desire in their eyes. Period.

 

[hara^kazuko]

Frens all of you are absolutely correct. Passion is all it takes in this game. i play 5 times a day for 3 hours each time since 1962 and i still love the game more than my wife. The chinese are sweeping every miserable trophy cos they have fire and desire in their eyes. Period.

oh, you probably have to reconsider on what you said bout you love the game more than your wife.. she maybe standing behind you when you typed this, cleching her fist or holding a kitchen knife...lol

 

[storkbill]

anyway back to the topic, congrats to Gu Juan for qualifying yet again for the main draw of the SO.

 

[badMania]

Yup...she has done well to beat Lee Hyun Jin and Lydia Cheah to qualify for the main draw. How old is Gu Juan? She could be the next Li Li....

 

[Loh]

Singapore knows they can offer anything because there will be no collection !!!

It is different in Malaysia coz they know there will be LCW, HF, WCH, KBH. Mana boleh tahan ?

My friend, you've not been following our sports scene closely enough. Those who excel in the SEA and Commonwealth Games, though lesser in stature than the Olympics and Asian Games, have had their share of the spoils, particularly the women's table tennis team. A new China import has outshone Ronald Susilo's fiancee by wining the most events, team and individual combined and was rewarded handsomely! And it is expected that more will follow suit! Do you know that Ronald's better half is perhaps worth close to a million sing dollars?

 

[storkbill]

Yup...she has done well to beat Lee Hyun Jin and Lydia Cheah to qualify for the main draw. How old is Gu Juan? She could be the next Li Li....

She's 16. Last year when she was 15, she beat Wong Mew Choo!

 

[Loh]

She's 16. Last year when she was 15, she beat Wong Mew Choo!

She needs to focus more and reduce her unforced errors if she wants to proceed any further!

 

[EastDevil]

Frens all of you are absolutely correct. Passion is all it takes in this game. i play 5 times a day for 3 hours each time since 1962 and i still love the game more than my wife. The chinese are sweeping every miserable trophy cos they have fire and desire in their eyes. Period.

Does your wife know anything about this?