TH or Lin Dan to final Hongkong SS

That is quite true..... hopefully he can get the first set and let LD run around in the second set and get the third set easily... yhe key point is in the first set....

since TH brings his family to HK.... I believe he will do his best and you know what I mean.... Title is a must..... There is a probablity of Taufik winning the game....

but the bigger percentage will go to LD as he is the strongest one now...



GO TAUFIK !!!!:p
 
I think it will be a bit better than last time they met. In 07 HK QF TH lost 12,14, despite leading 11:5 in the 2nd game.

The important thing is, I believe TH will be able to reveal how good LD really is now.

Jagdpanther said:
TH or LD in final?
I'd rather ask, "How many points can TH get?"
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ye333 said:
LD: 2001ABC, 2005 Sudirman, 2006 Thomas, 2006 Japan, 2006 AG (x2), 2007 MAS, 2007 French, 2007 HK.

TH: 2002AG, 2004 Indo, 2005 Singapore, 2005 WC, 2006 AG.

It's 9-5.

In 2006 HK TH walked out at 1:4 first game, in 2006 World Cup (It's invitational) TH gave LD a WO. You can put these two in to make the H2H 11:5, but then the very purpose of talking about H2H will be ruined. For example, LCW gave a WO to Zwiebler, is it appropriate to add 1 to Zwiebler's H2H against LCW? I don't think so.
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there is a different between a WO and a withdrawal. IN 06 HKO, it was i think 4-1 for LD before TH walks out. BWF disciplinced TH, BWF did not disciplined Zwiebler, A BIG DIFFERENCE. In 06 HKO, the match had started and TH conceded or defaulted. That counts as head to head. I think u write things in biased way. I write them fairly.

In 06 AG, there were 3 head to head encounter between LD and TH, LD won both earlier matches and TH won the last 06 AG head to head. By only counting the last win by TH and not counting 2 earlier lost to LD is unfair in a head to head tabulation. If u r gonna count H2H, count them all.
 
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ctjcad said:
:eek::cool:..WOW, what can i say, this match up will be enormous!!! And it will be the first time for both players to meet this yr!! As it will most likely decide the fate or either LD or TH going to the Super Series Finale.
Really envy the guys going there & watching!!:p

And if we have those mouth watering QF round matches y'day, the Semifinals lineup should be one jaw dropping lineup!!!...
Btw, will someone start a thread on the mouth watering Semifinals lineup??..:confused:;)
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and u think there are some bf'ers still think LD vs TH rivalry is the same as LD vs PG, LD vs LCW, LD vx XX rivalries, they are only kidding themselves or in a denial
 
aulia said:
all the best for Taufik... even I don't know how he will 'take care' of Lin Dan...

TAUFIK SEMANGAT!!! THE ONE AND THE ONLY INDONESIAN LEFT...:)
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not long ago, when simon santoso was winning, i thot he was INA's savior...
then when soni kuncoro had a mini comeback, i thot he was the next INA's savior... Now TH. The spinning is making me dizzy.
 
Did you read my post? I wrote clearly for LD "2006 AG (x2)". :confused:

Also what I said is, the very purpose of talking about H2H before a match is to extrapolate. To predict using history. The HKO Walking-out cannot contribute to this purpose. It's still early in the first game. No one could know who will win. Give you another example here. If some person talk about Simon Santoso vs LD and use Simon's 07 Swiss win to support his opinion, then he should be reminded that LD couldn't finish due to injury. He can put that into H2H if he wants, but that will make the H2H less precise and less useful.

Ya right. A person who didn't even bother to read the post he's replying writes "fairly".

cooler said:
there is a different between a WO and a withdrawal. IN 06 HKO, it was i think 4-1 for LD before TH walks out. BWF disciplinced TH, BWF did not disciplined Zwiebler, A BIG DIFFERENCE. In 06 HKO, the match had started and TH conceded or defaulted. That counts as head to head. I think u write things in biased way. I write them fairly.

In 06 AG, there were 3 head to head encounter between LD and TH, LD won both earlier matches and TH won the last 06 AG head to head. By only counting the last win by TH and not counting 2 earlier lost to LD is unfair in a head to head tabulation. If u r gonna count H2H, count them all.
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cooler said:
and u think there are some bf'ers still think LD vs TH rivalry is the same as LD vs PG, LD vs LCW, LD vx XX rivalries, they are only kidding themselves or in a denial
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there is no challenge for Lin Dan anymore, if there was, you would of seen it at the Olympics. there's no threat for this badminton machine
 
Such nonsense. If LD is that strong, why don't he finish PSH in 2 sets like he did in OG? Why don't he finish LCW like he did in OG?

Should I remind you there is this important thing called "form"?

cooler said:
depends on how generous LD will be. This is not the OG, LD wouldn't not go at it 100%
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ye333 said:
Such nonsense. If LD is that strong, why don't he finish PSH in 2 sets like he did in OG? Why don't he finish LCW like he did in OG?

Should I remind you there is this important thing called "form"?
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every smart players have a strategy going into a match. So LD is in form at china open where he beat lcw in 2 sets but not in form the day before when it took LD 3 sets to beat a much lesser player wen kai? Should i remind your there is this MORE important thing called 'mental smartness and strategy'. U want more proof? LCW has great form and fitness but poor mental strategy, that's why he keep losing to LD. LCW lost to LD at 08 china open when LD is in poor form according to u.
 
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Did you read my post? I wrote clearly for LD "2006 AG (x2)". :confused:

Also what I said is, the very purpose of talking about H2H before a match is to extrapolate. To predict using history. The HKO Walking-out cannot contribute to this purpose. It's still early in the first game. No one could know who will win. Give you another example here. If some person talk about Simon Santoso vs LD and use Simon's 07 Swiss win to support his opinion, then he should be reminded that LD couldn't finish due to injury. He can put that into H2H if he wants, but that will make the H2H less precise and less useful.

Ya right. A person who didn't even bother to read the post he's replying writes "fairly".
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sure i can admit i have overlooked your '2006 AG (x2)' as it was honest oversight, not based on a biased presumption.

where as u r overlooking 06 HKO WO, it is not a grammatical oversight. To discount a WO where the match have started and in progress as not a valid H2H is boloney. So u r saying BWF disciplining TH for the HKO WO is a paper work error???
 
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Oh, then what is the "mental smartness" that led LD to give WenKai one game? Mind explaining a bit? There are good theories (proposed by LD supporters/fans, mind you) in chinabadminton and badmintoncn. Just fyi if you met difficulty.

Did I say LD is in poor form in China Open 08? He was in OK form. Not as good as in OG, but not very bad either. On the other hand, did I ever say LCW was in good form in China Open? What's the point you want to make? :confused:

cooler said:
every smart players have a strategy going into a match. So LD is in form at china open where he beat lcw in 2 sets but not in form the day before when it took LD 3 sets to beat a much lesser player wen kai? Should i remind your there is this MORE important thing called 'mental smartness and strategy'. U want more proof? LCW has great form and fitness but poor mental strategy, that's why he keep losing to LD. LCW lost to LD at 08 china open when LD is in poor form according to u.
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Oh ya, very honest. Why didn't you overlook LD's other wins? LOL.

I have explained my reasoning. And in my reply to Chinese, I clearly stated the situations in both 06HKO and 06WorldCup -- which you also agree. I also said it's totally OK if you want to count that into the H2H, but then the H2H becomes less useful for prediction. Anything wrong with the above?

Did I ever say BWF should not punish TH?

Why don't you comment on my Simon vs LD example. Unlike 06HKO, Simon already won the 1st game fair and square.

Of course, for you the only purpose of H2H is to serve as a weapon to attack other players and other badminton fans. LOL.

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sure i can admit i have overlooked your '2006 AG (x2)' as it was honest oversight, not based on a biased presumption.

where as u r overlooking 06 HKO WO, it is not a grammatical oversight. To discount a WO where the match have started and in progress as not a valid H2H is boloney. So u r saying BWF disciplining TH for the HKO WO is a paper work error???
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