TUC finals draw COMES OUT

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  1. cxytdn

    cxytdn Regular Member

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    There is a problem that the WR of Feb.23 2006 didn't include the points of TUC Qualification. I think maybe the EBU will take a question on it. Maybe redraw? Who know?
     
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    malaysia also wants to avoid indoensia :)
     
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    i believe ' a bushido spirit' will beat denmark :D
     
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    For me, INA is always the most trickiest team in TC (now & past). There can choice any way to shock you. I think they will probably meet MAS fist rather than meet CHN. My reason as below:

    ** INA has experienced twince against MAS recently, and they know which players (especially MD) should they play agaist MAS. And INA well-informed about MAS palyers.
    ** But INA has no idea yet against CHN in Team event; which they are hard to estimate the matches.

    Sorry to say "INA is always the most trickiest team in TC (now & past)", but that is the fact. That's made them dominated TC. The only big title INA wants is TC not the rest. Again, for me... INA always have great chances in TC~!
     
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    good strategy, avoid early meeting with china... we must finish as the 3rd, and we must beat germany or india and then facing denmark

    ina official must be ready to bare 'the humiliation (rasa malu :) )' and bashing from 'local press' for further goal the tc final
     
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    Well, this seems like the ideal situation for Korea to employ the strategy it showed us in the last Sudirman Cup. If they choose again to play their weakest players in order to give them their pensions, then they could end up second in their group and bank on taking Malaysia and Denmark on the way to the final against China. On the other hand, their chances of beating both Denmark and Malaysia are so slim that they might be better off aiming for a semi-final loss against China after beating an Indonesian team that might be thankful for the loss in group play since they actually do have a chance of beating Malaysia and Denmark. Korea can then either make an effort to win or play their fourth string in the semi-final.
     
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    Firstly, if your ambition is to win, then you will have to beat all the other Big 5 teams that you meet. If your ambition is just to reach the final, then there are lots of hanky panky that one can play. I believe, all the Big 5 teams are out to win the Cup, and I trust they will try to win all ties. Even if Indonesia or Korea wants to get second placing, I don't think any will want the last place (like some of you suggest).

    China and Denmark have the easiest tasks. They are likely to stroll to the semifinals.

    Korea v Indonesia is a big match, but the result will probably be inconsequential. On the one hand, the loser will have to play an extra match before facing (probably) Malaysia and then Denmark before they can reach the final. On the other hand, the winner can have a rest day before an easy quarterfinal (probably Japan), and then face (probably) China before they can reach the final. So, loser - last 16, Malaysia, Denmark, final; winner - rest, Japan, China, final. Actually, I would choose to be the winner because it is slightly easier and the attitude of avoiding China is a defeatist attitude.

    Malaysia once again has the rotten luck of being almost assured of a Big 5 encounter in the quarterfinals. However, like I've said, if you want to win the Cup, then you have to get past everything that's thrown at you. It does not matter whether you lose in the quarters or the finals. Either you win the Cup or don't win it.
     
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    In the Uber Cup, it is difficult to imagine a scenario other than China v (Japan v Korea).

    The second group with Ned, Eng and Hkg is interesting by itself. If there will be any group in which all members finish with a 1 win, 1 loss record, it will be this one.
     
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    Pathetic and avoid-ist
     
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    I agree. No matter how tactical you want to be, if you want to be the best in the world, you have to play against some of the very best the tournament has to offer. There is no short cut. The INA tactic should be simple: CHN, DEN or MAS, go out there, do your very best and win!
     
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    Anyone know the actual schedule? The match start on 28 April, what time will it begin and which country are going to play on that day?
     
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    IBF should consider the draw of the quarter matches only after the completion of all group matches (just like what happens to European football matches). This would avoid any pre-fix of the results in my opinion.
     
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    I agree also, if i was the coaching staff, i would expect and want my players to be ready and to face whoever is in their way and do their best. I did mentioned all of the top ranked teams will have to go through all the 4 seeded teams, didn't i??..Getting a 1 day break to rest is also beneficial rather than play an extra tie. That's a more "honorable" thing to do...but we'll see what comes up..
     
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    ..yah, i agree it's a "pathetic and avoid-ist" attitude, i did mentioned that did i??.....That's why i said that's called a "strategy/plan"...
    BTW, i like the large, bold punctuation words there.. ;) :)
     
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    ..yah agree, there should be no short cut..i wouldn't mind the INA face and if all possible play CHN, MAS, DEN or KOR or whoever the top ranked teams are, win or lose..if possible, any team that wants to win the title should have a "take em all" attitude, en route to winning the title..That would really prove that the winner deserve and earn the Cup, correct??.. :rolleyes: :cool:
     
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    though i'm no badminton specialist/strategist etc etc - i really do not see how USA can come close to msia. apart from tony/howard, i don't think any of the other players will have any decent chance of winning a tie. i don't really see them edging england either. this is only a personal opinion - a fairly realistic one too, i believe.
     
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    Well I think the real threat now for Indonesia is not China, but Malaysia. I think Malaysia is more dangerous than China.

    I am pretty sure that Indonesia will be able to handle Korea. Lee Hyung Ill has never defeated Taufik his their 4 encounters. And the Korean doubles are now not as strong as they were in the past.

    When Ina meets China, this would be very interesting. I am pretty sure too that Indonesia will win over Chine 3-2.
     
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    :confused: How you are very sure that INA will win over CHN 3-2? If INA wins CHN, then I think the result should be 3-1.

    Matches Prediction:
    Taufik beat LD 1-0
    Candra/sdigit beat Fu/Cai 2-0
    Sony lose BCL/CH 2-1
    Alvin/Luluk beat CHN 2nd Doubles 3-1

    You said 3-2 which means you are very confident that INA 3rd singles (probably Simon Santoso) could beat CHN 3rd singles (either Bao Chun Lai or Chen Jin)? I don't think so.

    For me.... CHN has many choices of MS to face INA, but INA doesn't have. And what we all espect is Taufik is the KEY of winning TC. If Taufik loses, then nothing to say, the whole team will be destroyed. But if you look on CHN team, they are not only depend on LD or any individuals. Overall, CHN team is MUCH MUCH MUCH stronger than INA .... this is the fact, no doubt~!

    But again .... for me, INA is always have the great chances to bring back TC.
     
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    I have to agree with you on that. Unless they naturalise some foreign talents soon, I don't see how they can even come close to England.
     
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    the newest rumors about playing order of TUC finals

    1st Singles
    2nd Singles
    3rd Singles
    1st Doubles
    2nd Doubles
     

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